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Quote:Did Keppra cure your epilepsy? If you stopped taking it would the seizures resume?


Nope but it greatly reduced the severity of my seizures. If I stopped taking it I would have seizures.
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Quote:I don't think he's mocking you with this question JFC.


He did in my book which is pathetic.
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Quote:Your reading comprehension is pathetic.


Marijuana relieves the muscle spasms caused by MS.


Marijuana relieves the nausea caused by chemotherapy and AIDs medication.


There is no need to insult you. Every time you reply to my posts on this subject is a joke telling itself.


My reading comprehension is pathetic because I dont agree.


You are literally using the argument of spasms and nausea as reasons for people to use medical marijuana. When there are other alternatives out there.
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Quote:Nope but it greatly reduced the severity of my seizures. If I stopped taking it I would have seizures.
 

So you take a medication to treat the symptoms, not cure it.

 

Yet you say marijuana should not be legal because it does not cure anything.

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Quote:I will match scientific research on marijuana's many uses with your small sample of people with one condition.


It's a simple question. Did you cure the epilepsy when you started taking Keppra?


Im using my "small sample of people with one condition" as a relatable experience.


I already answered your question.
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Quote:My reading comprehension is pathetic because I dont agree.


You are literally using the argument of spasms and nausea as reasons for people to use medical marijuana. When there are other alternatives out there.
 

Two reasons, and I chose them because you misrepresented what I posted about them, hence my comment about reading comprehension.

 

And Bunnie is right, I am not mocking you. I am pointing out you are using the experiences of yourself and a few others with marijuana as an example of why it does not cure anything, when the drug you chose does not cure anything.

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Quote:So you take a medication to treat the symptoms, not cure it.


Yet you say marijuana should not be legal because it does not cure anything.
I take the medication because there is not a cure. Bingo you got it correct. If marijuana was LEGAL & it was presented as a SAFE and CURABLE medicine to LEGITIMATELY treat any disease, I would support it.


So far it dosent hence my reasoning for voting NO on 2
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I don't think medicinal marijuana has ever been sold as a silver bullet to cure whatever ails you. 

 

Most drugs will tell you "results may vary" 


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Quote:Either or

Isn't that the whole premise of why people wanted medical marijuana passed? To help cure or abait their ailments?
 


I asked because you said mm doesn't cure anything, I wanted to be sure what you meant.


 
Quote:He did in my book which is pathetic.
 I don't think he was...you know I wouldn't try to blow smoke up your rear if he was mocking you.


 
Quote:My reading comprehension is pathetic because I dont agree.

You are literally using the argument of spasms and nausea as reasons for people to use medical marijuana. When there are other alternatives out there.


What if those alternatives do not work for them, just like mm did not work for you? Should those people just have to suck it up and suffer, or should they be given the chance, just like you were, and see if mm might help with their symptoms
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Quote:I take the medication because there is not a cure. Bingo you got it correct. If marijuana was LEGAL & it was presented as a SAFE and CURABLE medicine to LEGITIMATELY treat any disease, I would support it.


So far it dosent hence my reasoning for voting NO on 2
 

I'm not sure what you mean by a curable medicine, but it sounds like it does not apply to Keppra.

 

Again, slowly this time....

 

...thousands of medicines are prescribed to relieve symptoms of disease, not cure the disease itself.

 

Vote as you will, I have no comment on that. But when you post inaccurate information I will reply.,

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Quote:I take the medication because there is not a cure. Bingo you got it correct. If marijuana was LEGAL & it was presented as a SAFE and CURABLE medicine to LEGITIMATELY treat any disease, I would support it.

So far it dosent hence my reasoning for voting NO on 2


Curable? Meaning it has to "cure" something to be of any medical use?
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I really can't believe this conversation. I've learned that a plant shouldn't be legal unless it can cure cancer. Absolutely brilliant. I've also learned that no legal prescription medications are gateway drugs to addiction. Again, absolutely freaking brilliant work going on here.

 

Will none of you fine people who opposed the legalization of marijuana not answer my simple question that I've asked  repeatedly in this thread?

 

What do you care and what business is it of yours if Rollerjag grows and smokes marijuana at his home for his own personal pleasure?

 

Not for medical reasons, though they are many. For pleasure?

 

Anyone willing to tell us your rationale? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?


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Quote: What if those alternatives do not work for them, just like mm did not work for you? Should those people just have to suck it up and suffer, or should they be given the chance, just like you were, and see if mm might help with their symptoms
 

Its not about sucking anything up and suffer, its more about providing more accessible preventative care.

 

There is a reason why Medical Marijuana is marketed to a certain demographic who cant afford quality health care.

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Quote:I'm not sure what you mean by a curable medicine, but it sounds like it does not apply to Keppra.

 

Again, slowly this time....

 

...thousands of medicines are prescribed to relieve symptoms of disease, not cure the disease itself.

 

Vote as you will, I have no comment on that. But when you post inaccurate information I will reply.,
 

What the hell are you talking about? I already said my seizure medication does not cure anything,

 

You keep going in circles in regards to what has already been talked about.

 

You responded to information that is considered as "inaccurate" because I have a different viewpoint.

 

Deal the hell with it.

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Quote:I always vote "no" on all amendments because I'm change resistant.
 

I do the same thing, but not due to an aversion to change.  I just don't think the state constitution needs to be changed to accommodate any of these issues.  Each one can be (and in the case of legalizing medical marijuana, has been) handled legislatively.  Constitutional changes should be about big things.  Not the petty niche issues we're usually presented with. 

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Quote:I do the same thing, but not due to an aversion to change.  I just don't think the state constitution needs to be changed to accommodate any of these issues.  Each one can be (and in the case of legalizing medical marijuana, has been) handled legislatively.  Constitutional changes should be about big things.  Not the petty niche issues we're usually presented with. 
 

I haven't followed the situation in Florida regarding Amendment 2, was legislation on MM stalling in legislative committees and the amendment an effort to force the issue?

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Quote:What the hell are you talking about? I already said my seizure medication does not cure anything,

 

You keep going in circles in regards to what has already been talked about.

 

You responded to information that is considered as "inaccurate" because I have a different viewpoint.

 

Deal the hell with it.
 

No, the information you posted is inaccurate because it is inaccurate, and your logic as presented for opposing Amendment 2 was, well, illogical.

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Quote:I haven't followed the situation in Florida regarding Amendment 2, was legislation on MM stalling in legislative committees and the amendment an effort to force the issue?
 

We have a bunch of ways to get laws on the books, the Amendment 2 process was a citizen's initiative. They get enough votes and the proposal goes on the ballot for popular vote. We have other ways to do it that I prefer, but this way can work if the situation is as you stated. In this case it wasn't they just went with the popular vote process.

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Quote:Its not about sucking anything up and suffer, its more about providing more accessible preventative care.

 

There is a reason why Medical Marijuana is marketed to a certain demographic who cant afford quality health care.
 

Preventative care doesn't prevent cancer,  you aren't making any sense. And what's this marketing nonsense, now it's a class and race issue? You just keep digging your hole deeper and deeper.

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I currently take blood pressure medicine, acid reflux medicine, and cholesterol medicine. All of them are blends of synthetic chemicals pressed into tablets pharmaceutical companies make which doctors prescribe which cures NOTHING!

 

They all RELIEVE the symptoms of my medical problems. If marijuana did the same, i.e. cured nothing but relieved the symptoms, then I would love the state to stay out of my health choices and permit me to consume the plant God provided without the fear of being criminalized and spending my remaining years incarcerated for doing so.

 

Regards..........................the Chiefjag


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