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Observations on Bridgewater

#1
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2013, 11:46 AM by FJohnson.)

I know many on this board are hoping for Bridgewater. After watching a we games this year, I have concerns over if he will be the second coming of Gabbert. I do think Bridgewater looks very poised in the pocket. You can see him making his progression, reading the defense and receivers as the play unfolds. But... I also see a lot of short passes and down field drops. I tried to find specific stats on the current draft drop and their ball distribution and I can up with three sites (if you have more post them).

 

First, the ball distribution chart: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/224444...quency.jpg

You'll notice that 60% of Bridgewaters attempts are less than 9 yards. 13% are 10-14 yards. Passes beyond 25 yards are a rarity (3.4%). By comparison, Boyd (Clemson) takes far more attempts down field (14%). I am not saying Boyd is the QB to draft, but the it made me wonder why?

 

Second, I looked at the completion rates: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/224444...letion.jpg.

Again what I find gives me reason to pause: Bridgewater shows 0 completions beyond 25 yards. Boyd fairs no better. Interesting enough, David Carr was the down field leader of names usually in the top 5 discussion.

 

Third, I asked is this fully a QB or receiver problem? Again, stats were scant but I did find this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/18137...-nfl-draft. Bridgewater appears to have numerous dropped passes. So why the drops? Poor receivers? Thrown into coverage? Accuracy issues? The film summary seems to indicate some of all. Mariota on the other hand looks solid.

 

So what to make of this? I don't think Bridgewater is a lock for a franchise QB, but I'll reserve judgement until after end of season.


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#2
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2013, 11:48 AM by jagjer.)

What downfield passing percentage does Mariota look "solid" on? You do realize the talent surrounding Mariota is superior to what Bridgewater has....right?
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#3

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Second, I looked at the completion rates: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/224444...letion.jpg.

Again what I find gives me reason to pause: Bridgewater shows 0 completions beyond 25 yards.

 
 

wut???

 

He like just had a 35-40 yard (in the air) TD just last week.  :wacko: 

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#4

Second coming of Gabbert hahahahahahahahahaha
Shock the world
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#5
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2013, 12:29 PM by Scarecrow.)

You say Teddy looks poised in the pocket, go through his progressions, and reads the defense...yet you compare him to Blaine? Unfortunately Blaine hasn't shown any of those things on even a semi-consistant basis.


This is wrong on so many different levels. I don't mind anying having an opinion on a certain QB but this post is largely inaccurate.
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#6
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2013, 12:30 PM by HURRICANE!!!.)

Quote:wut???

 

He like just had a 35-40 yard (in the air) TD just last week.   :wacko:
 

It was 18 yards.  It just looks like 40 yards because you are used to seeing him throw it 5 yards.


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#7

Didn't the people who made the first chart do an adjusted completion percentage for last year that listed teddy at the top?


He's the top qb. His main issues are deep ball accuracy and trusting his legs more often. One is an issue most qbs have and one can be taught. Geno was worse and he has improved on this a ton with New York.
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#8

Quote:You say Teddy looks poised in the pocket, go through his progressions, and reads the defense...yet you compare him to Blaine? Unfortunately Blaine hasn't shown any of those things on even a semi-consistant basis.


This is wrong on so many different levels. I don't mind anying having an opinion on a certain QB but this post is largely inaccurate.
Even Gabbert looked good with lesser practice competition. The stats help support or correct observations. Not trying to offend the Bridgewater lovers, just pointing out he has his flaws. We cannot afford a draft mistake on a QB.

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#9

Quote:What downfield passing percentage does Mariota look "solid" on? You do realize the talent surrounding Mariota is superior to what Bridgewater has....right?
Not defending Mariota. 

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#10

Quote:Even Gabbert looked good with lesser practice competition. The stats help support or correct observations. Not trying to offend the Bridgewater lovers, just pointing out he has his flaws. We cannot afford a draft mistake on a QB.


No offense taken and I enjoy a good argument. My post may have come off the wrong way. Teddy has deep ball accuracy problems. However, he has good to very good short to mid-range accuracy. That's more important to me. I don't imagine most NFL QBs attempt a very high number of passes beyond 25-30 yards. I think 15ish-25 is more important. I've seen Teddy make enough NFL quality mid-range passes to feel comfortable there.
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#11

Quote:Even Gabbert looked good with lesser practice competition.
When? From what I've heard, he doesn't even look all that good in 7 on 7 drills

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#12
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2013, 01:15 PM by Achilles.)

Quote:I know many on this board are hoping for Bridgewater. After watching a we games this year, I have concerns over if he will be the second coming of Gabbert. I do think Bridgewater looks very poised in the pocket. You can see him making his progression, reading the defense and receivers as the play unfolds. But... I also see a lot of short passes and down field drops. I tried to find specific stats on the current draft drop and their ball distribution and I can up with three sites (if you have more post them).

 

First, the ball distribution chart: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/224444...quency.jpg

You'll notice that 60% of Bridgewaters attempts are less than 9 yards. 13% are 10-14 yards. Passes beyond 25 yards are a rarity (3.4%). By comparison, Boyd (Clemson) takes far more attempts down field (14%). I am not saying Boyd is the QB to draft, but the it made me wonder why?

 

Second, I looked at the completion rates: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/224444...letion.jpg.

Again what I find gives me reason to pause: Bridgewater shows 0 completions beyond 25 yards. Boyd fairs no better. Interesting enough, David Carr was the down field leader of names usually in the top 5 discussion.

 

Third, I asked is this fully a QB or receiver problem? Again, stats were scant but I did find this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/18137...-nfl-draft. Bridgewater appears to have numerous dropped passes. So why the drops? Poor receivers? Thrown into coverage? Accuracy issues? The film summary seems to indicate some of all. Mariota on the other hand looks solid.

 

So what to make of this? I don't think Bridgewater is a lock for a franchise QB, but I'll reserve judgement until after end of season.
 

game 1 of the season TB threw 4 TDs over 20 yards or 25 or whatever.


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#13
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2013, 01:28 PM by vagrantwade.)

Mariota actually leads the nation in yards after the catch and only converts 3rd downs 31 percent of the time.

 

As opposed to Teddy who isn't even in the top 10 in YAC and leads the nation with 60% 3rd down conversion.

 

Trying too hard. Too many morons on this forum trying to pimp the kid playing on the best team in the nation because they think competition matters when evaluating a QB.

 

Mariota isn't close. I hope the Bucs get this overrated kid.


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#14
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2013, 01:59 PM by Dockerill91.)

Bridgewater looks light years beyond Gabbert.
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#15

Read my breakdowns of him. I watched actual games, didn't just go by stats.
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#16

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Mariota isn't close. I hope the Bucs get this overrated kid.
 

 

Me too. But some Jags fans will apparently be unhappy if that happens. They like them athletic college QB that make their living off screens and big college running plays. 

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#17

Quote:Me too. But some Jags fans will apparently be unhappy if that happens. They like them athletic college QB that make their living off screens and big college running plays. 
not endorsing mariota but them athletic qbs went undefeated this past weekend, i think.

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#18

Quote:No offense taken and I enjoy a good argument. My post may have come off the wrong way. Teddy has deep ball accuracy problems. However, he has good to very good short to mid-range accuracy. That's more important to me. I don't imagine most NFL QBs attempt a very high number of passes beyond 25-30 yards. I think 15ish-25 is more important. I've seen Teddy make enough NFL quality mid-range passes to feel comfortable there.
... now you're sounding like a politician.  Ninja  Ninja

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#19

Comparing the worst QB in NFL history to Bridgewater :no:


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#20

Quote:Comparing the worst QB in NFL history to Bridgewater :no:
 

Can we get that guy banned for this?

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