That never stopped you from posting dumb stuff here.

 

You are losing, and you contiue to lose. You don't have motivation like MJ, you have ... well, hmmm ... you have Jock itch.

 

 

 

:woot:

 

glass houses.....

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It takes a village....

 

No doubt what you as a parent will have a huge impact. Athletics can help reinforce, and also teach things that you couldn't out of the home.

 

So you tell little Billy that he manned up and took a good solid beating from student/player Buck C. Large ... and that is why Buck deserves a trophy? He deserves it for kicking your .. Butt... that's why Buck deserves that trophy, Billy ... because you suck, and Buck doesn't.

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glass houses.....

 

Well thought out there, Buck, well thought out.

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Then why do we have so many comments about recipients of the participation trophies throwing them away because they realize they are worthless?

 

This isn't about the kids, it's about the parents. Some parents who see their kids carry a team resenting the other kids receiving any recognition.

Oh you hit the nail on the head. It is about the parents, but not necessarily for the reason you think.

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Oh you hit the nail on the head. It is about the parents, but not necessarily for the reason you think.

 

If there is no person to beat, what is the point in winning? If there is no appreciation for trying, ans losing, why participate?

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Because everyone including the kids that got the trophies would be getting the "participation paper"; it would serve almost as a "thanks for playing" kinda thing. The real superlatives of the team would still be the only one getting the trophies as recognition of being superior players. 

I think this is three today. I agree. This is getting old.... :yes:  And it is three separate threads at that!

 

Anyway, it's not necessarily for being superior. It's to show what hard work can do for you. It gives other players something to strive for, to work toward. It helps to develop and mold leadership qualities, as well as qualities to be a good follower which is just as important if not more than being a good leader.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
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I like the way you put this.

 

Earlier this year I took my kids to the mountains of North Carolina and they got to see snow for the first time. I'd like to think that will be a more important memory for them than any trophy they received this year.

No doubt it will be. I think we are going to go to NC this year to see the Polar Express, and hopefully snow.

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I think this is three today. I agree. This is getting old.... :yes:  And it is three separate threads at that!

 

You recognize it, but you don't understand it.

 

Next thing you will say ... "I get it now, TMD, I see what you mean about this generation ... Wow!, I see it"

 

Just don't say I didn't warn you ... it isn't my job to talk you down from the ledge.

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Do you expect some company deciding between 3 candidates to make you have a wrestle off to see which ape is strong enough to empty the trash cans fastest?

 

Just trying to understand all angles here.

Absolutely not. It teaches the value of hard work, and what hard work can get you. Hard work in any walk of life pays off. It just so happens that at the youth level athletics is one of the best teachers of this concept.

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So you tell little Billy that he manned up and took a good solid beating from student/player Buck C. Large ... and that is why Buck deserves a trophy? He deserves it for kicking your .. Butt... that's why Buck deserves that trophy, Billy ... because you suck, and Buck doesn't.

Where does the butt kicking ever enter the picture here?

 

It all boils down to teaching kids discipline, working hard to be where you want athletically, which in turn is a huge life lesson. Nothing more. When you give every kid the ol trophy you aren't teaching that. When you can single out accomplishments from the season, as Deacon pointed out, (the best Offensive Player, the best Defensive Player, the best Lineman, the team MVP, and the Coaches' Choice player). The kids can look at these examples to what hard work, perseverance, dedication, can get you. It gives them something to strive for. Something to work for.

 

I am not sure why that's perceived as a negative thing.

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You recognize it, but you don't understand it.

 

Next thing you will say ... "I get it now, TMD, I see what you mean about this generation ... Wow!, I see it"

 

Just don't say I didn't warn you ... it isn't my job to talk you down from the ledge.


 

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You're right about that.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
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Sorry, not meaning to bring up anything painful.

 

Just wanted to let you know that everything you have ever brought here screams "winner", Rache.

 

Back on topic for a second: my childhood trophy case is tiny.  My childhood memories are, for the most part awesome.  And very few of those awesome memories involve a classic definition of achievement.  In life, they don't give out trophies for what is most important. 

 

I can sort of see both sides of this argument.  Recognition, even at the smallest levels, can mean a great deal to forging a little person's confidence.  Reinforcing the wrong attributes can spoil one.  I think it's important that trophies actually mean something.  I am all in favor of "Hardest Worker" and "Most Improved" types of trophies, and these can often be as little as a small letter next to the subject line on a report card.

 

Sports can be great, and bring out much of the best in the human spirit.  But man, people can really warp them into meaning more than just a game.  And those that do are generally miserable.

 

Stop looking at both angles. :angry:

 

  I think there are people that forget that kids take what other kids think about them very serious.

 


 

Giving a trophy is sort of like giving a beauty award.

 

Just let a few of these "Big Strong Men" tell their ugly Daughter that even though she didn't win the pretty girl contest, and get a big shiny Crown, that she is still pretty in Daddy's eyes. (Knowing the snobby beaches are laughing behind her back, and knowing she knows it as well)

 

It is always easier to be the  ... Yay, you kicked there Butts good ... rah, rah Dad.

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Absolutely not. It teaches the value of hard work, and what hard work can get you. Hard work in any walk of life pays off. It just so happens that at the youth level athletics is one of the best teachers of this concept.

 

Beauty is as much of a gift as athletics.

 

It's sometimes in the Genes

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Beauty is as much of a gift as athletics.

 

It's sometimes in the Genes

 

My Biology Teacher always said "Before you marry a girl look in to her genes" :teehee:

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Where does the butt kicking ever enter the picture here?

 

It all boils down to teaching kids discipline, working hard to be where you want athletically, which in turn is a huge life lesson. Nothing more. When you give every kid the ol trophy you aren't teaching that. When you can single out accomplishments from the season, as Deacon pointed out, (the best Offensive Player, the best Defensive Player, the best Lineman, the team MVP, and the Coaches' Choice player). The kids can look at these examples to what hard work, perseverance, dedication, can get you. It gives them something to strive for. Something to work for.

 

I am not sure why that's perceived as a negative thing.

 

Then we wonder WHY teenage girls want cosmetic surgery, and why teenage boys take steroids.

 

Are you the reason? Is it all about winning? That is what they learn.

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Sorry, not meaning to bring up anything painful.

 

Just wanted to let you know that everything you have ever brought here screams "winner", Rache.

 

 

No worries, I'm just messing around. 

 

Oh and it's about time I get some recognition. 

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My Biology Teacher always said "Before you marry a girl look in to her genes" :teehee:

 

Mine told me to look at her teeth. I didn't even get to ride her first.

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No worries, I'm just messing around. 

 

Oh and it's about time I get some recognition. 

 

Messing around?

 

You have my attention.

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Where does the butt kicking ever enter the picture here?

 

It all boils down to teaching kids discipline, working hard to be where you want athletically, which in turn is a huge life lesson. Nothing more. When you give every kid the ol trophy you aren't teaching that. When you can single out accomplishments from the season, as Deacon pointed out, (the best Offensive Player, the best Defensive Player, the best Lineman, the team MVP, and the Coaches' Choice player). The kids can look at these examples to what hard work, perseverance, dedication, can get you. It gives them something to strive for. Something to work for.

 

I am not sure why that's perceived as a negative thing.

 

Because sometimes hard work, perserverance, and dedication brings you a big, fat, zero.  Which is a lesson in itself, but it should not be the only lesson.

 

And did I mention the hugs?

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Mine told me to look at her teeth. I didn't even get to ride her first.

 

Oh, so that's where your thing for donkeys come from..... looking at their teeth

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