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My Beef With Leonard Williams

#41

Quote:I saw an article on NFL.com where Ray was compared to Terrell Suggs. I'll take that here
 

ray is a monster and with that motor, to me, he is one of those guys that even if he doesnt pan out as where hes drafted, he would still be a valuable player to have. high floor, high ceiling.

 

id love that here as well.

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#42

Quote:I saw an article on NFL.com where Ray was compared to Terrell Suggs. I'll take that here


Lol he can't stop the run and has 1 pass rush move I've watched two of his games and didn't need to see anymore he would be a 6th rounder on my team
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#43

Quote:Lol he can't stop the run and has 1 pass rush move I've watched two of his games and didn't need to see anymore he would be a 6th rounder on my team
 

Can't stop the run like this?

 

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#44


Quote:<div>The scoop: "When you study Ray on tape, you see a lot of the same qualities Suggs had as a pass rusher coming out of college. He can really turn that corner sharply." -- SEC offensive coach comparing Missouri DE Shane Ray to Baltimore Ravens LB Terrell Suggs
 
The skinny: The comparison of Ray to Suggs is high praise, but worthy praise as well. While Missouri has been the home of "try hard" defensive ends like Kony Ealy, Michael Sam and now Markus Golden, Ray can win with explosiveness and athleticism more frequently than the aforementioned ends. Evaluators love Ray's play demeanor and his ability to win around the corner or with inside moves while still being able to handle himself against the run. Ray, a junior contemplating entering the 2015 draft, led the SEC in sacks this season with 14.
 
 

This is pretty spot on.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-prospects

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#45

Quote:Can't stop the run like this?

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So the runner ran into him and he can't tackle? Thanks for pointing that out
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#46

Quote:Lol he can't stop the run and has 1 pass rush move I've watched two of his games and didn't need to see anymore he would be a 6th rounder on my team
welp, youve seen 2 of his games. you are clearly an expert and i defer to you, sir.

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#47

Quote:welp, youve seen 2 of his games. you are clearly an expert and i defer to you, sir.


Well I'll watch his other two on draft breakdown than and see if anything changes. He was really bad in the two I watched
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#48

I'm not going to comment on how well he stops the run, but in a LEO role he really wouldn't need to do that much.


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#49

Quote:What has grabbed my attention most is, I didn't know the word beef was still used this way.
he must be young, I said it a few times in middle and high school
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#50

Jordan and Ray are nothing alike IMO.
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#51

Watched two more games he is a third down sped pass rusher. Absolutely terrible vs the run and only wins with speed no power in his game. Becomes increasingly ineffective as game goes on, would not draft.
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#52

Quote:Watched two more games he is a third down sped pass rusher. Absolutely terrible vs the run and only wins with speed no power in his game. Becomes increasingly ineffective as game goes on, would not draft.
 

Can we now all stop pretending that you know what you're talking about?

 

How many defensive ends have you watched in your life extensively? 

 

Without a very large sample size to compare Ray to, what you just did was completely pointless.

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#53

Quote:Can we now all stop pretending that you know what you're talking about?


How many defensive ends have you watched in your life extensively?


Without a very large sample size to compare Ray to, what you just did was completely pointless.


Knew ansah was going to be good and Jordan a bust when they came out
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#54

Just check my draft posts last year
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#55

Quote:Just check my draft posts last year
 

no, don't care.

 

those guys came out 2 years ago btw.

 

You don't know more than NFL GM's.

 

Blindly guessing is what you're doing and I have no interest in your predictions.

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#56
(This post was last modified: 12-26-2014, 08:44 PM by JaguarScience95.)

Quote:no, don't care.


those guys came out 2 years ago btw.


You don't know more than NFL GM's.


Blindly guessing is what you're doing and I have no interest in your predictions.
Lol then y call me out if ur not gonna check and I'm not guessing y u so mad about it anyways I've been doing way better than Caldwell so that must say a lot about our GM
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(This post was last modified: 12-26-2014, 09:08 PM by Achilles.)

Quote:Lol then y call me out if ur not gonna check and I'm not guessing y u so mad about it anyways I've been doing way better than Caldwell so that must say a lot about our GM
 

whats the point of checking your posts from last year if they came out 2 years ago?

 

regardless ray is known for his strength too. ive watched him enough to know that as a LEO he has everything you look for. Gregory does too. Right now I have them neck and neck. you saying that he would be a 6th round pick or a 3rd down pass rusher is a joke.

 

either have some kind of agenda here or as stated above, you just dont even have a clue.

 

based on your name here id assume youre 19 years old even though it says youre 24? either way i feel like at that age you should probably know a little more about football than that.


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#58

Quote:Lol then y call me out if ur not gonna check and I'm not guessing y u so mad about it anyways I've been doing way better than Caldwell so that must say a lot about our GM


Ha Ha Ha!!!
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#59

Quote:whats the point of checking your posts from last year if they came out 2 years ago?


regardless ray is known for his strength too. ive watched him enough to know that as a LEO he has everything you look for. Gregory does too. Right now I have them neck and neck. you saying that he would be a 6th round pick or a 3rd down pass rusher is a joke.


either have some kind of agenda here or as stated above, you just dont even have a clue.


based on your name here id assume youre 19 years old even though it says youre 24? either way i feel like at that age you should probably know a little more about football than that.


Let me check out Gregory real quick too tell u what I think and then we'll see whose right in a year even though the credit will never be given
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#60

Quote:Let me check out Gregory real quick too tell u what I think and then we'll see whose right in a year even though the credit will never be given
 

are you sure you dont mean 2 years so you can tell me to check your posts from the year before that dont exist?

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