All I know is that if in some situation Leonard Williams is not available to the Jags. players like Randy Gregory or Shane Ray are pretty good consolation prizes. I think Randy Gregory will need to beef up his rookie season, but I honestly believe he will be a beast in the pass rush and will garner Pro-Bowl consideration.

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I try really hard not to sound like an [BAD WORD REMOVED] but it's hard when people keep telling me a guy who gets stone walled in half his games is better than a guy who is disruptive in almost every game he plays and is going up against better players.

 

You have no clue

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It's okay, while I watch actual snaps and you all watch highlights I think I know a bit more than you about it.

 

 

Just like last year when I said Teddy Bridgewater was above and beyond the best QB in the class, like when I said OBJ/Mike Evans>Sammy Watkins and when I said Johnny Manziel sucked.. literally the only thing I was wrong about last year is I thought the Texans would take Teddy #1. 

 

 

Yep, NOBODY ON THIS BOARD WATCHES SNAPS, ALL HIGHLIGHTS!

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I watch game cut ups not highlights so I'll trust my opinion over yours. Probably the same people here thought Clowney/Mack>Bridgewater last year lol. 

 

As someone who thought Bridgewater was the best player in the draft, Williams is FAR from being all hype. Gregory is closer to being overhyped simply because he's much more raw than Williams and he'll need a year or two to get acclimated to the NFL game. Williams should be able to contribute from day one.

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I watch game cut ups not highlights so I'll trust my opinion over yours. 

 

 

It's okay, while I watch actual snaps and you all watch highlights I think I know a bit more than you about it.

 

 

I try really hard not to sound like an [BAD WORD REMOVED] but it's hard when people keep telling me a guy who gets stone walled in half his games is better than a guy who is disruptive in almost every game he plays and is going up against better players.

 

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shaq

 

This was my reaction. 

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Leonard Williams is all hype? Thanks for the laugh. I needed one of those.

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You have no clue

De Ja Vu, this is what everyone said last year when I said OBJ was better than Sammy Watkins and when I said Clowney was overrated.. you'll see.

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Yep, NOBODY ON THIS BOARD WATCHES SNAPS, ALL HIGHLIGHTS!

90% of you do not watch actually games

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De Ja Vu, this is what everyone said last year when I said OBJ was better than Sammy Watkins and when I said Clowney was overrated.. you'll see.

Link, bro?

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Link, bro?

Uh oh you caught me, didn't save a link to a post I made a year ago about a random topic must be a lie :O

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Leonard Williams is a beast. End of story.


In addition, I also said ODB would be the best receiver from this class... And I'm also saying that Leonard Williams is a stud.

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Uh oh you caught me, didn't save a link to a post I made a year ago about a random topic must be a lie :O

Its all searchable. But nah, its easier to lol at everyone while promoting one's self with tale of opinions you have had in the past (but aren't willing to provide evidence of).

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Tbf to Mack he has had a good year, so you hardly got that right

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I love Teddy but he's not gonna end up the best in the class. I think that will be Blake, or Carr (who I really liked) if we fail to give Blake some help.


I was actually a fan of doing what the raiders did (Mack first, Carr second) But you can't deny that last year's draft was phenomenal.


As to this question... I've scouted Gregory, even did a write up on him. There's no question he's good, he's currently my highest rated player out of those I've scouted. But to say Williams is all hype... think about what that means. You're saying an interior defensive lineman has been hyped? I don't ever remembering that happening.


Look guys... the good part of sucking this bad is that we pretty much have a shot at whoever we want. Williams will be good. Gregory will be good. We can't really go wrong, nor do I think we will.

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Williams or Gregory?

 

Sure we can all have a preference, but either way, the Jags have the opportunity to draft a real difference maker on the Dline and more often than not, such players impacts games in a big way.

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Gimme the day 1 impact guy in Williams over the project player any day.


Dudes a boogey man level monster. You get him bull rushing RTs with Marks in the middle and i dont care who the other AFCS teams have at QB.

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Uh oh you caught me, didn't save a link to a post I made a year ago about a random topic must be a lie :O

I'm not going to claim any moral high ground here, because I wanted Manziel in the last draft (or Bridgewater). But it turns out the forum is easy to search..


And these were Swaguars rookie of the year predictions on May 2nd...


02 May 2014

Just for fun


ROY - Teddy Bridgewater

OROY - Sammy Watkins

DROY - Khalil Mack (I'd say Clowney but I don't trust him)



And this was his answer when asked for his three favourite picks for us...



28 Apr 2014

Clowney

Mack

Watkins

~ Teddy

~ Johnny


This was a little earlier, but he did indeed appear to be a fan of drafting teddy from this list...



23 Mar 2014

Teddy

Teddy

Teddy

Watkins

Teddy


I can't fine the post in which he says OBJ is a better prospect than Watkins (who he describes as an "elite" prospect with "magic hands"), but he is at least consistent in saying he likes Bridgewater.


Generally, the players he liked before the draft have worked out ok But can't see anything to suggest this is he second coming of Nostradamus. (Although the Clowney concern was well founded as it turns out !)


Feel free to go back through my post-history now to find my contradictions ! (I'm sure I've had some)

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Lol

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Is swaguars like ten years old.

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Your thoughts become your words,
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