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Cardale Jones

#1
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2015, 12:05 AM by Football?.)

Watching the National Championship game, and all I can say is wow, Ohio State's 3rd string QB has the most NFL-talent of all of their QB's. If he actually declares for the draft this year, and he's there in the 3rd round, do you take a chance on him? Based on physical talent alone, I'd put him above Mariota and Winston. Of course, physical talent alone doesn't make one a great QB by any stretch. However, when you  watch him (and I realize it's only his 3rd game, which actually makes him that much more fascinating), you can definately see that he has a great feel for the pocket and has a keen sense of how to maneuver in it. When he leaves the pocket, he keeps his eyes downfield, not looking to scramble first. His accuracy has been great, especially down the field. He brushes off defenders like they are kids. He really looks like a man among boys.

 

People were comparing Blake to Big Ben, but Cardale is the reincarnation of Roethlisberger.


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#2

Im watching him for only the second time and he does look good but I mean... I have not seen much from him over all....


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#3

I don't think he would last that long, but I would.
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#4

That fumble helps show the reality that this is still a kid making his third start. Talking about his draft prospect is beyond premature. He may not even be their starting QB next year.


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#5

No,just no. What does it tell you if you have three QB on the roster that put out those numbers? What do they all have in common? That offensive scheme of Urbs. You know,the same one that produced Tim Tebow......Which no one likes as a pro QB. Hopefully though they have a damn good QB coach there to develop him with reading defenses and such.
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#6
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2015, 12:33 AM by jtmoney.)

I don't know, he is making some good throws and playing this well in only his 3rd start in the championship game. Is there any situation/person you can compare him to?

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Quote:No,just no. What does it tell you if you have three QB on the roster that put out those numbers? What do they all have in common? That offensive scheme of Urbs. You know,the same one that produced Tim Tebow......Which no one likes as a pro QB. Hopefully though they have a damn good QB coach there to develop him with reading defenses and such.
System doesnt mean nothing, look at the player 

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#8

He's this year's Bortles except even more raw and far less game experience. Also was a problem character wise before he had his daughter.


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#9

Not a chance. Urban actually changed his system up for Jones so he wasn't running what Miller and Barrett were before they got hurt. Don't get it twisted though, Elliott is what's been making that offense go. Watching Jones these last three weeks, he's got the type of tools you want, but he's late on a good bit of his throws and those end up being picks at the next level.


And really, the Big Ben comparisons are really dumb at this point. Ben *was* the offense at Miami and Jones hasn't shown that yet.
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Quote:Im watching him for only the second time and he does look good but I mean... I have not seen much from him over all....
Well, that's because he only started in three collegiate football games -- and the three biggest games of the season at that.


Physically, dude is a beast at 6'5 250 lb. and a huge arm. Having watched this game, I like the fact that, outside of the design run, he seems to look to throw rather than to run. I agree that he has the most "transferable" skill out of their three QBs, but way too early to project any NFL prospect for him.


If he can produce another season like these previous three games and clean up his footwork and mechanics, dare I say an early second or maybe even late first?
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#11
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2015, 03:49 AM by JaguarsWoman.)

Quote:System doesn't mean nothing. Look at the player 
 

In other words the system does mean something.

 

Urban Meyer changed the scheme for each quarterback, so it is hard to compare them. What if all three quarterbacks ran the same scheme? I guarantee only one of them would be good at it.


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Quote:Not a chance. Urban actually changed his system up for Jones so he wasn't running what Miller and Barrett were before they got hurt. Don't get it twisted though, Elliott is what's been making that offense go. Watching Jones these last three weeks, he's got the type of tools you want, but he's late on a good bit of his throws and those end up being picks at the next level.


And really, the Big Ben comparisons are really dumb at this point. Ben *was* the offense at Miami and Jones hasn't shown that yet.
 

He changed the scheme for Barrett too.

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#13

He did, but not as much as he did for Jones. Elliot's emergence allowed him to take a lion's share of the pressure off of Jones. Barrett was still the major focus of the offense before he got injured.
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Quote:He did, but not as much as he did for Jones. Elliot's emergence allowed him to take a lion's share of the pressure off of Jones. Barrett was still the major focus of the offense before he got injured.
 

That is why I think all NFL draft talk for Jones after only three games is complete nonsense. If you are not the major focus of the offense, you have no chance in the NFL.

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#15

I'd take him over Andy Dalton if I had to win a game right now on any level.


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#16

Quote:System doesnt mean nothing, look at the player 
 

Signed,

 

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#17

Changed the scheme huh? So do you think Urbs burned his play book and started from scratch with each QB? Or do you think that he tweaked it pulling a few plays out. What I saw was a young QB that has promise, that's big and has a strong deep ball. What I didn't see was many plays that forced him to read multiple progressions. Urban philosophy was pretty damn simple last night and it worked perfectly. I would put more of them winning last night on that stud running back Elliott than the QB. I just think it's premature to compare the kid to Big Ben with only 3 starts in Urban Meyer's offense.
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Quote:That fumble helps show the reality that this is still a kid making his third start. Talking about his draft prospect is beyond premature. He may not even be their starting QB next year.
Which is a huge reason he may enter. He has all the tools and then some. Pointing out a fumble as to why he may or may not be ready is crazy. Did you see the plays he made, the tools he has? Not many have that. The kid is thrust into the starting role in the teams conference championship game. Then he plays Alabama in the national semi, and then in the national title game. Kid is poised, has a rocket arm, size, can run.

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#19
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2015, 08:14 AM by TravC59.)

Quote:No,just no. What does it tell you if you have three QB on the roster that put out those numbers? What do they all have in common? That offensive scheme of Urbs. You know,the same one that produced Tim Tebow......Which no one likes as a pro QB. Hopefully though they have a damn good QB coach there to develop him with reading defenses and such.
I agree to a point. But I think Jones has the best pro prospects of all three. Guy has it all. Miller and Barrett relied more on their athleticism. It appeared Meyer ran less read stuff with Jones. Not the same type quarterbacks.


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#20

Quote:I'd take him over Andy Dalton if I had to win a game right now on any level.
 

If you really believe this your smoking it. 

 

From what I've read the reason Barrett started over him was because he showed up to camp fat and pudgy.  That's the guy I want starting for me.

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