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Joe Paterno's wins could be restored
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Quote:The Freeh report pretty much lays out what Paterno knew. He probably wasn't involved in covering up the allegations, but he sure as heck didn't do enough by his own admission to address them. That Penn State group is like a cult. Read the comments at the bottom. A delusional group of human beings. http://www.blackshoediaries.com/2015/1/1...9-sandusky We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:That Penn State group is like a cult. You could apply that label to just about any major college sports program. Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Quote:He was well aware of the allegations going back to 1998, and he did little or nothing about it. He allowed Sandusky to retire quietly, but never reported the incident to authorities despite the fact that Sandusky was using his charitable endeavors to basically pick his victims. The guy was a predator. A lot of lives could have been saved the pain of what this animal did if this icon would have simply done something like report the incident to police. There were three investigators in 1998 investigating Sandusky. How is it Paterno's fault two of them concluded that nothing was going on? Quote:Penn State sued the NCAA to get the wins back. Instead of let it go through the courts, the NCAA agrees to restore the wins and Penn State agrees to give 60 million dollars to to activities and programs for the prevention of child sexual abuse and the treatment of sexual abuse victims. Penn State was going to pay the $60 million regardless. All this establishes is where that money is spent, within the state of Pennsylvania. Nice try spinning it but against Penn State but the $60 million was established in 2012. Penn State was suing the NCAA, both were defendants in a lawsuit. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:There were three investigators in 1998 investigating Sandusky. How is it Paterno's fault two of them concluded that nothing was going on?Feel free to defend the guy if you feel the need. All indications are that he knew about the incidents and did nothing to bring it to the attention of authorities. I'm going to assume you're not a parent, but just in case you are, let's say you entrust your pre-teen son to the responsibility of a guy who is well known in the community. While your child is in the custody of that person, the adult takes advantage of your child and molests him repeatedly. During the course of this happening, the molester's boss is told by another employee that your child is being molested, and that it's being perpetrated by this upstanding guy. The boss doesn't lift a finger to notify authorities, and despite the fact that your child was absolutely molested, the investigations clear the molester of allegations, most likely because the company he works for has enough political pull in the community to bury the charges. He's left to his own design to continue molesting children. When it happens again with another child a few years later, the boss still does nothing despite being informed. You're okay with all of this, right? I mean, who cares if your kid was molested? Right? Who cares that there was someone who could have put an end to this when it was happening? You're okay with this? Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Quote:Feel free to defend the guy if you feel the need. All indications are that he knew about the incidents and did nothing to bring it to the attention of authorities.Why is it solely his responsibility to bring it up to authorities? And how does he fail when authorities did know about it at the time?
You know, if Joe Paterno had been a bad coach, Penn State fans wouldn't be so quick to defend him. But hey wins are way more important than people's lives here. Just ask their idol, Joe Pa.
I was wrong about Trent Baalke.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Why is it his responsibility to bring it up to authorities?This might be the most disgusting comment in this whole thread. Let's assume, for a second, that you're a decent human being. I don't know you beyond your defense of Paterno, but I'll assume it to be the case. Let's say that you became aware and certain that a subordinate was molesting children. You go to your boss with the information, and your boss shoves it under the rug. Do you: A. Go to the police--your boss might not give a damn, but you care about the well-being of the children being targeted? B. Do nothing and turn a blind eye as it continues to happen? I'm going to guess you picked A, right? Paterno picked B. That's why he's a disgusting human being, and the NCAA whoring itself out to Penn State by reinstating the wins is equally disgusting. Quote:Why is it his responsibility to bring it up to authorities? And how does he fail when authorities did know about it at the time? Wow. Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Quote:This might be the most disgusting comment in this whole thread. That's my point, except he didn't pick B. You believe he did; that is where my question is directed. Why do you say he did one thing when he did the opposite? We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:This might be the most disgusting comment in this whole thread. To be fair, the question should include that you're a head coach with the most wins in college football history, and it might bring about bad publicity for this to come out. So do you: A. Report it to the police, knowing that the lives of children are more important than bad publicity that might come from it. OR: B. Ignore it, and let it continue. Knowing that wins are more important than childrens lives. I mean they'll get over it, right? It's not like Sandusky was killing people!
I was wrong about Trent Baalke.
Quote:That's my point, except he didn't pick B. You believe he did; that is where my question is directed. Why do you say he did one thing when he did the opposite? You contradict yourself pretty quickly. Quote:Why is it his responsibility to bring it up to authorities? And how does he fail when authorities did know about it at the time?
I was wrong about Trent Baalke.
Quote:That's my point, except he didn't pick B. You believe he did; that is where my question is directed. Why do you say he did one thing when he did the opposite?He did pick B. He reported it to his superiors, they did nothing, and rather than pressing the issue to the authorities, he swept it under the rug and implicitly allowed it to continue happening. I don't know how morality works in your head, and I'm about ten seconds from writing you off as a troll, but in my brain, if I know that someone is having his way with children, I'm going to the police regardless of what my boss thinks. Paterno failed to do so, end of story. Quote:Why is it his responsibility to bring it up to authorities? And how does he fail when authorities did know about it at the time?Because he was a human being, actually he was a piece of [BLEEP] in a human costume, but u get the point. So he can have the responsiblity of coaching a countless number of football players, but not for reporting a CHILD MOLESTER to the authorities. Gotcha. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Why is it his responsibility to bring it up to authorities? And how does he fail when authorities did know about it at the time?He lied under oath about knowing. He said he was not aware of the 1998 events. He lied again when he said he had no further involvement after reporting it to Curley. Joe was directly involved with them not taking it to the police. The, including Joe Pa, allowed this guy to build a nesting ground for him to take advantage of these kids. How is it his fault? Is this a serious question? Where is your proof that he went to the police?
What if it was Joe Paterno's kid? Do you really think the situation would be the same? Would he have merely alerted his boss?
No, because it wasn't his kid, and clearly, football is worth much more than someone's life. Quote:Why is it his responsibility to bring it up to authorities? And how does he fail when authorities did know about it at the time?You can't be serious. You for real?
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