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Baltimore Rioting


Quote:Police Union Attorney. "Judgement was too rushed to file charges" and "Police did nothing wrong"..


Said the judgement was based on politics..


This is gonna get nasty..
Right on their attorney,  :thumbsup:

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Quote:Right on their attorney, :thumbsup:


It definitely was rushed and it wreaks of politics.. These officers haven't even had the chance to tell their side of the story yet..
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(This post was last modified: 05-01-2015, 05:05 PM by boudreaumw.)

Quote:It definitely was rushed and it wreaks of politics.. These officers haven't even had the chance to tell their side of the story yet..
Didn't all but one of them give their statements? Why does it seem like a short amount of time considering the police investigation is complete and the medical examiner ruled it a homicide. 


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It's easy to get the magistrate to pull a warrant for practically anything you want. I'd be surprised if the prosecutor actually has a legitimate case regarding homicide / manslaughter. A death in police custody, by the letter of the law, doesn't equate to manslaughter charges. At most (from what I know) they may have negligent homicide / manslaughter. Either way, it seems political. I'm interested in seeing the probable cause to led to the warrant because everything mentioned thus far wouldn't appear to be enough... especially for all six people. 


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Quote:Didn't all but one of them give their statements? Why does it seem like a short amount of time considering the police investigation is complete and the medical examiner ruled it a homicide. 
 

You may already know it, but that ruling from the ME doesn't mean it was intentional. It only means that it doesn't appear to be self-inflicted or natural. The key word being "appear".

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Thought I heard something about them making a stop between the arrest and arrival that wasn't previously reported any truth to that? Or do we know what that stop was for?


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Quote:You may already know it, but that ruling from the ME doesn't mean it was intentional. It only means that it doesn't appear to be self-inflicted or natural. The key word being "appear".
 

You are right and yeah I did know that. I was commented more on that it didn't seem rushed to me given the information available. 

Quote:Thought I heard something about them making a stop between the arrest and arrival that wasn't previously reported any truth to that? Or do we know what that stop was for?
 

It was to pick up another arrestee I believe? I watched a thing that they did not report the stop but a third party video recorded it. 

 

Cops, seriously there is video footage everywhere don't be scumy. 

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Quote:You are right and yeah I did know that. I was commented more on that it didn't seem rushed to me given the information available. 

 

It was to pick up another arrestee I believe? I watched a thing that they did not report the stop but a third party video recorded it. 

 

Cops, seriously there is video footage everywhere don't be scumy. 
 

Time for Body Cameras to be honest.  To protect both citizens and police officers.


You'll always have people who'll always side with the police, and people who'll always side with the other side.  With body cameras you can at least have more information, which is never a bad thing.

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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Quote:Time for Body Cameras to be honest.  To protect both citizens and police officers.


You'll always have people who'll always side with the police, and people who'll always side with the other side.  With body cameras you can at least have more information, which is never a bad thing.
 

I'm totally for cameras, but who will pay for them?

 

The same goes for improved training. It's easy to advocate but we shouldn't be surprised when they ask for more money. 

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Quote:I'm totally for cameras, but who will pay for them?

 

The same goes for improved training. It's easy to advocate but we shouldn't be surprised when they ask for more money. 
 

I have no problem paying for things that I think would benefit people.  I think the police, education, and our veterans should always (within reason) get the funding they need.  I think body cameras are certainly a reasonable expense.  (Much more so than tanks, or helicopters)

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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Quote:Alternately if he had run away from the cops speed >_>


I don't know much about Baltimore law, but there's also this:


Just heard that charges include unlawful detention... apparently running from cops isn't enough to get you a beating by said cops...
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Quote:I have no problem paying for things that I think would benefit people. I think the police, education, and our veterans should always (within reason) get the funding they need. I think body cameras are certainly a reasonable expense. (Much more so

than tanks, or helicopters)


I think there should be an educational requirement as well... being a cop shouldn't be last resort type job... a degree in criminal justice should be mandatory... especially in urban areas...


It may be unrealistic, but I think it's something to consider...
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Quote:I think there should be an educational requirement as well... being a cop shouldn't be last resort type job... a degree in criminal justice should be mandatory... especially in urban areas...


It may be unrealistic, but I think it's something to consider...

Pretty sure you don't even need a degree in Criminal Justice to join the FBI.  My father in law is a former FBI Agent, and my brother-in-law works for the FBI (though not as an agent).  You do need a four year degree though.

 

Perhaps some sort of associates degree as a requirement.

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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Quote:I think there should be an educational requirement as well... being a cop shouldn't be last resort type job... a degree in criminal justice should be mandatory... especially in urban areas...


It may be unrealistic, but I think it's something to consider...
 

You underestimate the training that is involved with becoming a police officer.  A degree in any field doesn't prove anything.

 

The charges likely won't stick, and what we will see is these police officers get acquitted.  They are using a classic technique of charging them with the highest possible charge and looking for a plea-bargain down to a lesser charge.

 

What will end up happening is that the officers involved will not be convicted of the major charges that they are facing, and riot do-over because of "in-justice".



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Quote:I think there should be an educational requirement as well... being a cop shouldn't be last resort type job... a degree in criminal justice should be mandatory... especially in urban areas...


It may be unrealistic, but I think it's something to consider...
 

I have a degree in criminal justice, and it doesn't teach you anything you can actually use. It certainly doesn't qualify anyone for the profession. 

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Quote:Alternately if he had run away from the cops speed >_>


I don't know much about Baltimore law, but there's also this:


 
Does that apply to convicted felons?

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

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Quote:Just heard that charges include unlawful detention... apparently running from cops isn't enough to get you a beating by said cops...
STOP!  He ran from police officers drawing attention to himself.  That in it self was will warrant the police to question you.  If you are a convicted felon and have a knife on your person, that will warrant an arrest.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

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Did anyone see the cops mug shots? Is it true that 3 of the 6 are black? Because that would be a real problem for the racialists.
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This country has such a bad culture problem.  I wish I could say I had a solution to it or that I think it could be easily corrected.


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Quote:Did anyone see the cops mug shots? Is it true that 3 of the 6 are black? Because that would be a real problem for the racialists.


Some people claim its racists. Rational people claim cops had something to do with the death of a person.
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