yes, that's EXACTLY what I said.


You know what, if the undrafted rookie free agents want to go nuts during mini-camp, GO FOR IT. The highly valued early draft picks, however, need to tone it down. There is nothing to prove in mini-camp.

We should keep them from doing anything too strenuous until the superbowl

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

What about those who are neither highly valued early draft picks nor undrafted free agents? Those picked in rounds 3-7? Should they go nuts or not?


What of the first or second round pick that isn't "highly valued?". What if the player is picked over the strenuous objection of his position coach, coordinator, head coach or some combination thereof? Does that make the player less than " highly valued " and more obliged to go nuts? What if the highly drafted player is brought in at a position of strength (I.e. Phillip Dorsett, Cedric Ogubueshi) and is not being asked to start immediately? Is he considered "highly valued" or not? Conversely, if on the same team, a third round pick is at a position of weakness, and the team has an expectation he can start, what then? Is he under more or less of an obligation to go nuts than the higher drafted yet less than highly valued player above? Does injury change the rookie effort obligation? What kind of message does different levels of allowable effort send to the team?


I understand being risk averse, but I think this particular strand of your argument is troublesome in its application.

What if Blaine gabbert or derrick Harvey don't participate and don't get injured but demetrius mccray and telvin Smith go all out and both get injured?


Oh well, at least we have the prized guys healthy and ready to dominate come opening day.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

What about those who are neither highly valued early draft picks nor undrafted free agents? Those picked in rounds 3-7? Should they go nuts or not?


What of the first or second round pick that isn't "highly valued?". What if the player is picked over the strenuous objection of his position coach, coordinator, head coach or some combination thereof? Does that make the player less than " highly valued " and more obliged to go nuts? What if the highly drafted player is brought in at a position of strength (I.e. Phillip Dorsett, Cedric Ogubueshi) and is not being asked to start immediately? Is he considered "highly valued" or not? Conversely, if on the same team, a third round pick is at a position of weakness, and the team has an expectation he can start, what then? Is he under more or less of an obligation to go nuts than the higher drafted yet less than highly valued player above? Does injury change the rookie effort obligation? What kind of message does different levels of allowable effort send to the team?


I understand being risk averse, but I think this particular strand of your argument is troublesome in its application.

I think any pick in the first 3 sounds is highly valued. Obviously the earlier the pick, the more the franchise is probably depending on them to make an impact.


I like the Dolphins idea of treating the draft picks differently in mini-camp. The early guys especially have already secured a roster spot. There is no need to have your prized pass rusher trying to beat a right tackle around the edge in 11 on 11 in rookie mini camp.

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We should keep them from doing anything too strenuous until the superbowl

They should be in pads everyday doing the Oklahoma drill all day. Real men stuff.

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What if Blaine gabbert or derrick Harvey don't participate and don't get injured but demetrius mccray and telvin Smith go all out and both get injured?


Oh well, at least we have the prized guys healthy and ready to dominate come opening day.

When our coaching staff does something similar to the Dolphins next year in rookie mini camp, will you be mad?

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Well let me tell you something ... ... ... ... Yawn. Adios.

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Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

Correction: none of the draft picks participated in the Dolphins 11 on 11 drill

Did you get that info from your friends on the scene? Were the draft picks being fitted for their evening gowns while the rest of the girls practiced?

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

The references we make bear ties to our being

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Success is a journey, not a destination.  Go all out Mighty Jaguars.

On the positive side the Jaguars might get a chance to draft


Shawn Oakman, DE
at 6'9" 280lbs Baylor  (Penn State Transfer) should Odrick not work out Oakman would make a great Jaguars LE in Gus's Front Bear defense scheme.

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On the positive side the Jaguars might get a chance to draft Shawn Oakman, DE

at 6'9" 280lbs Baylor (Penn State Transfer) should Odrick not work out Oakman would make a great Jaguars LE in Gus's Front Bear defense scheme.

I was talking about oakman in another thread. He's still very raw, but that size combined with his potential and his possible ability to add more pass disruption from that spot is very intriguing.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

When our coaching staff does something similar to the Dolphins next year in rookie mini camp, will you be mad?

Not as long as you're on hand to tell the jaguars staff which of our draft picks need to be safe and which are expendable.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Losing one guy for the season ultimately will not determine our fate in 2015...



Look guys,



I know that the loss of Fowler is a tough blow to the team- and it's a shame that he got hurt on the very 1st day of minicamp (which is slightly hilarious), but one guy does not determine the success of the whole team. What will determine our success in 2015 however, is seeing the rest of our draft class step up and contribute, and having our 2nd and 3rd year guys showing lots of improvement. Along with our FA's being able to contribute as well.



There's no question that this is a do or die year for Bradley and Co. We will know by the end of this season whether or not Bradley is leading this team in the right direction. If we end up with a 5-11, or 4-12 record, then that will let us know that Bradley has failed as a coach. At that point, all of the "apologists" for Bradley can shut the [BAD WORD REMOVED] up. Sorry that's just the way it would have to be. If we end up with another 10+ loss season it's because of bad coaching and Bradley not being able to motivate this team to succeed, and not because of the loss of a few playmakers to injury. Great teams are still able to overcome things like this...

If history repeats itself we have a lot more injuries coming so it won't just be one player. Just be prepared!

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If history repeats itself we have a lot more injuries coming so it won't just be one player. Just be prepared!

 

So we should fully deploy the badger strategy and not practice for fear we might have players dinged.  For that matter, let's call the league and forfeit the season so we don't jeopardize anyone by playing games. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

So we should fully deploy the badger strategy and not practice for fear we might have players dinged. For that matter, let's call the league and forfeit the season so we don't jeopardize anyone by playing games.

I was thinking everyone could play in those huge inflatable balls. No one seems to get hurt in those things.

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So we should fully deploy the badger strategy and not practice for fear we might have players dinged. For that matter, let's call the league and forfeit the season so we don't jeopardize anyone by playing games.

Nothing but stationary bicycle, classroom work, and walkthroughs until the first game. We don't want anybody getting hurt 'when it doesn't matter'.

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Nothing but stationary bicycle, classroom work, and walkthroughs until the first game. We don't want anybody getting hurt 'when it doesn't matter'.

They're considering hiring former Jaguar, Derrick Harvey, to assist in training our players to avoid injury.  It worked for him.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rw_07Kv_ao

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I was thinking everyone could play in those huge inflatable balls. No one seems to get hurt in those things.

You run the risk of players becoming dizzy, which potentially could lead to injury if they stumble and fall exiting their huge inflatable balls.  I would recommend wrapping them in bubble wrap if they go that route.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

You run the risk of players becoming dizzy, which potentially could lead to injury if they stumble and fall exiting their huge inflatable balls.  I would recommend wrapping them in bubble wrap if they go that route.

 

Tom Brady has nothing to do with this. Stay on topic.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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Tom Brady has nothing to do with this. Stay on topic.

Those would be deflatable balls.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Did you get that info from your friends on the scene? Were the draft picks being fitted for their evening gowns while the rest of the girls practiced?

 

That is directly from Dolphins beat writers on the scene.

 

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