At least we can agree that the Beatles are awesome.


We will get the #1 pick though.

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60% of the time, It works Everytime...



 

...Are you aware of who we are, Doctor?

 

WE'RE THE BUCCANEERS! Y'know, the team that went 0-16 it's first year? The team that was called THE YUCS for nearly three decades? Are you aware just how much pain it felt like to have BILL FREAKIN' PARCELLS turn us down on NAME alone? How about Tony Dungy  and his conservative dink and dunk O? How about all those years people called US the worst team in the NFL? Yeah, while you at least had Mark Brunnell leading you, You know who we had? TRENT "Ravens were a perfect fit" Dilfer! The same JACKASS, that would go to the Ravens after gibing a giant middle finger to us, MOOCH off of the best defense ever prior to our bowl run, and then turn around saying it was OUR FAULT that he never got a ring, calling us archaic, when it was HE who injured his leg prior to '99 and thus could not be here for our Champiionship game with the Rams. WHICH by the way, was some of the worst called football in history, spawning a rule made in OUR favor, AFTER THE FACT, on what is and isn't a catch! AFTER THE FACT! 

 

Oh, and speaking of QB's? Yknow who else we had? STEVE YOUNG! That's right, THAT Steve Young! What did he do? Go to SF and sh*t on all of us by suddenly becoming elite!

 

Now, back on topic...

 

Even when GRUDEN came, we were old and broken. Sapp, Brooks, Lynch, Barber, All of them a slowly setting sun. Yes, we hired Gruden. YES we won it all! YES we have a trophy while you don't--but ya know what it got us? NOTHING! The greatest D of all time was thereafter WASTED with year, upon year, upon year, upon  YEAR, UPON YEAR, UPON YEAR of TERRIBLE, HORRIBLE drafts! Just a little footnote by the way? We never had a QB durring any of this! We had such polished turds as CHRIS SIMMS! JEFF GARCIA! BRIAN GREISE! BRUCE GRADKOWSKI! - Hell, the only half decent one we EVER had was Brad Johnson, and he was no more than average! Just good enough not to screw things up. THEN we get ROBBED vs. the Colts the following year! What the hell is "LEAPING", 'Doc?! Even if it's a rule, have you ever heard it called before? No? How 'bout EVER AGAIN?! I sure haven't!

 

YOU have also had ownership that gives a rats behind (Regardless of whether you know it or not.) The Glazer family sold us out after they bought Manchester United, and you know what happened? Blackouts, no free agent spending, no stadium upkeep--WHICH YOU ARE GETTING--and it was US that did the London [BAD WORD REMOVED] YEARS before you made the commitment, pal! We know that song and dance! Relocation? PAH! You've gotten the least of ir compared to what we got in 2009 when we were losing! People were jumping ship so bad there were those that WANTED us to move to LA! Just to stop the bleeding!

 

While we're at it, you know what made '09 WORSE? We let Derrick Brooks go when the house was cleaned for no reason. Tampa's favorite player arguably. The cornerstone of everything we had ever became, just up and cut. Of course, this was all going to be fixed in the '09 draft, they said! Oh yeah! A draft in which NONE ARE LEFT from, just like you. 

 

Oh, sure, we THOUGHT Freeman was going to be the answer in 2010, but that was ruined thanks to a [BAD WORD REMOVED] call against the Lions that dashed our playoff hopes. A call which the NFL PERSONALLY SAID was [BAD WORD REMOVED], and issued us an apology...again, AFTER THE FACT! Since then I've had to watch Freeman and these conservative coaches RUIN his psyche and witness his career float in the toilet until it was finally flushed, years too late!

 

That brings me to Schiano. That man BLATANTLY lied to us. He promised us that our fan base would be mended. He said we would cut the cancer from the locke room and establish "Trust, Belief and Accountability" - "TBA" he called it. Then we cut Aqib Talib and K. Winslow Jr....FOR THEM TO GO ON TO THE PATS AND JETS AND REKINDLE THEIR CARREERS! We have been stomped on by the media for the past two seasons because of that man for one decision or another he's made. Even acquiring VJ, Carl Nicks, and DARREL FREAKIN' REVIS isn't enough to help this team! You know why? WE DON'T HAVE A QB! Glennon is winless as a starter with the worst YPA in the league I believe. We have an empty stadium just like you as well. Talk about SCOREBOARDS?! We're still using a rinky-dink one that may as well be from the 1980's! You laugh at it, and I do too occasionally, but at least your scoreboard will  DO THE JOB! Ours is terrible! You're getting a nice shiney stadium while we can't even have fans to keep us cool in the blistering heat!

 

There's one thing I always tell everyone and that is this: I am PROUD to be a Bucs fan, and I'd rather come from the bottom and see the rise to the top than be a [BAD WORD REMOVED] Patriots fan, who sees YEAR AFTER YEAR of wins coming out of his team's [BAD WORD REMOVED] left and right and only gets to moan if they lose their millionth SUPERBOWL!!! God forbid teams like ours even make it to the playoffs! Ungrateful SWINES those successful teams are, never appreciating what they have! The Kansas City Chiefs have the league by the NADS right now, and you know what? They STILL [BAD WORD REMOVED] and moan "Wahhhh, Alex Smith isn't breaking records! The season is doomed with him at QB! We are soooo doomed at NINE AND 0!" You know what? SCREW 'EM! They aren't like you and I, or even the Browns. OUR teams know the meaning of pain. WE are the true fans. The ones that actually know what that damn Superbowl even MEANS to have under your belt! We're the ones that moment is meant for!!

 

I respect you, Doctor, and your Jags. NO ONE knows your pain like we do and by God, if we were to EVER meet in the Super Bowl I would consider it the greatest day in Florida sports history. I hope you FIND that QB, 'Doc! I hope you find him this year and you make the entire AFC your biotch! Just NOT at our expense...

 

We both deserve this pick, honestly...but only one can have it, and brother? All of Tampa needs it to be us just as bad as you need it to be you.

 

So again...It's down to just You and the rest of us.

 

Let's do this.

 

At least your Buccaneers have won a Super Bowl.  We're the only Florida team to not have.  Our best season was a 1999 run where we were ruined by our divisional rival (and they got there by a ridiculous play that should never have happened in a million years) and then got taken into Salary Cap Hell.  Oh yes!  We may have started out fine.  Made the AFC Championship game in just our second year.  But even then our team did not have an ounce of respect.  Not an ounce, Beatles.  So while your team was terrible in it's first two years and didn't get respect, our team was good and didn't get it.  

 

You want to complain about Glennon's YPA?  In Gabbert's first year it was a full yard behind Glennon's YPA.  And that's our Quarterback.  The one we picked in the Top 10 -- that we traded a 2nd to move up for.  The one who was supposed to be our answer to our Quarterback woes.  In the same year David Garrard was released due to injury and we were left with Luke The Clown (you may know him from his days in Tampa).  Meaning that we've always been taking Florida Reject Quarterbacks... and Blaine Freakin' Gabbert.  (Since Henne was released from miami)


Since the Brunell era (which was several years ago) we've gone from Leftwich to Garrard to McCown to Gabbert to Henne.  It's been a merry-go-round of the can't-cut-it-crew.  And for all your blackouts... for all your attendance issues, you don't have to deal with other people telling you your team should SIGN TEBOW!  No, that's reserved for the Jaguars.  People joke about us because we have tarps in our stadium.  Because we can't fill it up.  When people say that a team has no fans, they refer more to the Jaguars than they do the Buccaneers.  

 

You guys at least have a defense that can keep you in games.  You aren't getting blown out by 10 points every week.  You can handle another year of Glennon to get a franchise Quarterback.  In the meantime Clowney will boost your defense.  And who knows?  Maybe Glennon will improve.  I wouldn't count on it at this point, but he isn't worse than Henne and Gabbert.  Glennon's YPA has at least been improving.  At least he isn't struggling to get 200 yards per game like Blaine Gabbert was.  


Clowney will be a fine consolation prize for your team.  You can then get Winston or whatever other QB comes out next year and you'll probably rise high.  But this team can't take another year of Gabbert/Henne.  This team needs Bridgewater.  We're constantly getting blown out.  We have no offense, no defense, the only thing we have is a punter.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

WEAPON!

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One of these years.............

At least we can agree that the Beatles are awesome.


We will get the #1 pick though.

 

All we need is love.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

All we need is love.

 

Love, love.

 

Love is all we need. 

 

Oh, btw I shot the sheriff, but I didn't shoot that dog gone deputy. I swears!

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Live long and prosper \\// 

First of all, I feel this thread has been very positive even though we are directly competing with each other. It's always good to see this and I think we find common ground a lot faster when we remember we are all Floridians and fans of teams that deserve what's coming to them. I've gotten likes on near every one of my posts, had comments such as "The Beatles are awesome" and "I'm really starting to like Beatles." - On a rival forum! That is rather amazing to me, especially when I originally was going to just troll you guys, but you were such good sports and now look where we have come to. Very cool.

 

Now, I'd like to retort Doc by saying we in fact DID have a few of us who were calling for Tebow, and it was nauseating, let me tell you.

 

As for Glennon, most don't see him as the answer going forward. He starts to look good and then he'll dunk off a pass for a loss. Plus, he has ZERO clutch in him.

 

We are tired of the mediocre and we don't want to "Shame us For Jamies" Next year. We have talent on the roster and we have a 16-mil CB that isn't going to be patient  forever. We need to win now!

 

Realistically, #2 won't be a bad spot. If you get Teddy, we get Johnny "BY GAWD" Football, which is who I personally want. Most of us WERE also warming up to Mariota or Hundley if not those two i mentioned first. After the Oregon loss though...Mariota may have hurt his stock. 

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Beatles, you get the credit for making this a positive thread. Most fans of other teams don't make us very happy - for example, a Bills fan said Paul Posluszny is not a good MLB. I  hope you keep coming here the rest of the season.

 

Being #2 is not bad if you would rather have Manziel than Bridgewater, but for all Bridgewater fans in Tampa, that would be nervewracking.

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Bridgewatter Just doesn't thrill me in QUITE the way Manziel does. His frame worries me.

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You can have Manziel all you want.  Or Mariota for that matter.  We just want Bridgewater.  

 

Also for the record, a few people may have called for the Buccs to sign Tebow, but nowhere near as bad as it was for us.  We had Chuck Norris saying we should sign Tebow.  Chuck Freaking Norris.  These weren't just our fans, but fans of other teams.  And we are the number one spot mentioned for Tebow.  Such to the point our new GM had to say "Even if he's released!" when the media in Jacksonville asked.  There was even a rally with all 5 remaining Tebowites trying to get us to sign him.  Someone put an ad on the radio.  Apparently they have 11 commandments now.  After thou shalt not kill, it's

 

Thou Jaguars Shalt Signest Timmeus Tebow 

 

Thankfully Caldwell isn't member of the Church of Latter Day Tebowites.  

 

We are tired of being the joke of the league.  Blaine Gabbert and Chad Henne are blights upon our team.  Neither should ever be named a starting Quarterback by any team lest they be infused with talent by the football gods themselves.  Our passing game is so abysmal that Nick Foles passed for more TD's in one game than we have in 8 games.  The Oakland Raiders, who are 2nd last in Passing TD's, almost has double what we have.  Meanwhile we are 4th in most interceptions, behind just the Jets, Cardinals, and Giants.  All of whom have twice the number of Touchdowns we have.  Or better.  All season we have yet to pass for multiple touchdowns in a game.  

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Doctor, FYI Marcus Mariota jumped over Teddy Bridgewater for the #1 pick. I was surprised because I read he was bad at Stanford.

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JaguarsWoman

Doctor, FYI Marcus Mariota jumped over Teddy Bridgewater for the #1 pick. I was surprised because I read he was bad at Stanford.

Huh?  According to who?

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

I heard that ad John Morgan of Morgan & Morgan made.

 

Serious question...could he be worse than Gabbert?

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I heard that ad John Morgan of Morgan & Morgan made.

 

Serious question...could he be worse than Gabbert?

 

Wrong question. The point was to find out what they had in Gabbert. I think they now know.

 

Tebow would have just been in the way.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

Huh?  According to who?

 

The Sporting News

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I heard that ad John Morgan of Morgan & Morgan made.

 

Serious question...could he be worse than Gabbert?

 

Serious question... should we settle than 'better than Gabbert'?  


Let's phrase it this way... would you settle for Glennon?

 

The Sporting News

Well then, that settles that I guess.  The Sporting News clearly knows what Dave Caldwell will do months before he does.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

yeah but I'd rather have Tebow as my No. 2 than Chad.

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Serious question: Should we settle for 'better than Gabbert'?  


Let's phrase it this way: Would you settle for Glennon?

 

Well then, that settles that I guess.  The Sporting News clearly knows what Dave Caldwell will do months before he does.

 

We are not settling for "better than Gabbert." To do that would mean not drafting a quarterback because Chad Henne is better than Blaine Gabbert.

 

TSN never said anything about the Jaguars. It is only saying whoever will get the #1 pick, it is most likely that team will select Marcus Mariota.

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I heard that ad John Morgan of Morgan & Morgan made.

 

Serious question...could he be worse than Gabbert?

 

Would you eat at Burger King because...serious question...could it be worse than McDonalds?

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Longest current playoff droughts in the NFL

 

Buffalo Bills                         1999 AFC Wild Card Playoffs          13 years

Oakland Raiders                 2002 Super Bowl XXXVII                10

Cleveland Browns               2002 AFC Wild Card Playoffs          10

St. Louis Rams                    2004 NFC Divisional Playoffs          8

Jacksonville Jaguars†         2007 AFC Divisional Playoffs           5

Tampa Bay Buccaneers     2007 NFC Wild Card Playoffs          5

 

 

NFL teams that have never appeared in a Super Bowl

 

Lions

Browns

Jaguars

Texans

 

14 of the 32 NFL teams have never won a Super Bowl

 

Bills

Browns

Bengals

Titans

Texans

Jaguars

Chargers

Eagles

Vikings

Lions

Panthers

Falcons

Seahawks

Cardinals

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TSN never said anything about the Jaguars. It is only saying whoever will get the #1 pick, it is most likely that team will select Marcus Mariota.

And they're the be all end all of draft news?  Most current mock drafts have Teddy Bridgewater being selected.  There's not really even that great of a chance that Mariota declares.  Doesn't seem like a very reliable source to me.  

 

yeah but I'd rather have Tebow as my No. 2 than Chad.

 

Tebow is a distraction.  Look at what he did to that Jets team.  Do you really want Tebow behind your rookie QB with a few of his nutcases calling for him to start no matter how well your rookie is playing?

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke.