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Poll: Time to fire Gus?
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Let this season play out regardless of how bad it gets.
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The Giant Fire Gus & Dave Thread (MERGED)


I say let season play out but I think afterwards we fire Gus but I think we keep Caldwell.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_...nto-season

 

"What went wrong?

 

The Dolphins were 24-28 under Philbin. Their .462 win percentage from the start of 2012 through Sunday is tied for 18th in the NFL.

 

Their last playoff appearance was in 2008. Since then, the Dolphins have not finished a season with a record above .500. The other teams that fall into that category are the Cleveland Browns, St. Louis Rams, Oakland Raiders and Jacksonville Jaguars."

 

Man we are in bad company!


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(This post was last modified: 10-05-2015, 03:47 PM by jagsbum.)

If he loses to Tampa he deserves to be fired. I didn't panic after the patriots loss, this one is hard to swallow. Even still I'm not writing off this season. Blake's numbers are doing well except for comp. percentage, they will get better with the return of Thomas and Denard. But if we lose to Tampa the future of this team, (which I think is bright) is in bad hands.


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Quote:If he loses to Tampa he deserves to be fired. I didn't panic after the patriots loss, this one is hard to swallow. Even still I'm not writing off this season. Blake's numbers are doing well except for comp. percentage, they will get better with the return of Thomas and Denard. But if we lose to Tampa the future of this team, (which I think is bright) is in bad hands.
 

Beating Tampa doesn't really prove much.  I guess losing to them does become another level of despair. 

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Quote:Well, he should have coached the kicker better and coached the penalty makers not to make penalties obviously.


I asked you yesterday and got no response so I'll ask you again. We won the turnover battle but yet only scored 13 points on a defense that is giving up and average of 33 and scored no points in the second half of a game for the second time this season. We failed to generate any consistent pressure on a 40 year old back-up playing behind one of the worst OL lines in the league. We committed 13 penalties and 5 on the only drive that ended in a TD for them. So, in your honest opinion, what is the reason we lost that game yesterday?
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it's a country club atmosphere


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Culture? Culture? Heres Culture in the dressing room

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwb9-OlQimc


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Quote:Culture? Culture? Heres Culture in the dressing room

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwb9-OlQimc
Gus Bradley sighting at 0:15. lol. Tbh idk if its culture, or the talent, or the coaches, the gm.. All I know is 8-28 is unacceptable. A guy just lost his job for going 24-28. 

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The only "culture" problem is the entitlement generation.




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"Two Scoops", Sir. 


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Hey, FBT, finding ways to lose winnable games by being 2nd half no shows every week and committing 5 penalties on 1 drive shows a total lack of composure. That's on the coaches. We have a freaking coach who talks like he's proud of participating in losses to bad teams, and then says he's "confused" about why we can't seal the deal. He's the head coach, he should know this team better than anyone. 

 

People can talk about talent all they want, clearly it was good enough to beat Carolina and Indy, and yet we found a way to lose both. It's becoming a pattern. We play not to lose, we don't go for the jugular. In the first half we were gaining an absurd amount of first down yardage using play action. In the second half, we were consistently running on first down into 8 man fronts. Why on earth did we get away from what was working? They adjusted their gameplan alright, they adjusted it to play conservative.

 

Do what's working. Rinse and repeat. Don't try to force something just because.


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Quote:I'm impressed by how emotionally charged you men are. Like really passionate. That's cool. But what were y'all expecting this year? Most everyone put this team at 7, 8 wins. That's what I see. We will more than likely win the next two games to get back to .500 goin into London. We will probably lose to the bills which will put is at 3-4 at the bye. That's on pace. So, I'm not really seeing the problem.


Furthermore, if Myers hits either of those field goals, this thread simply doesn't exist. Think about that.
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Quote:I asked you yesterday and got no response so I'll ask you again. We won the turnover battle but yet only scored 13 points on a defense that is giving up and average of 33 and scored no points in the second half of a game for the second time this season. We failed to generate any consistent pressure on a 40 year old back-up playing behind one of the worst OL lines in the league. We committed 13 penalties and 5 on the only drive that ended in a TD for them. So, in your honest opinion, what is the reason we lost that game yesterday?


Come on FBT. I see you posting in other threads. I'm eagerly awaiting your insight to the question I posed to you.
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(This post was last modified: 10-05-2015, 05:19 PM by badger.)

Quote:Come on FBT. I see you posting in other threads. I'm eagerly awaiting your insight to the question I posed to you.
 

Your question is flawed.  There is no one reason why the team lost.  It's a combination of failures including the coach.  That doesn't mean we need to clean house four weeks in.  Calm down.


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Quote:Come on FBT. I see you posting in other threads. I'm eagerly awaiting your insight to the question I posed to you.
 

You've been sitting on the edge of your seat waiting for a response from me?  Why?

 

We won the turnover battle, but squandered one opportunity and scored on the other.  We also had a drive that put us in a position to win the game outright only to have the QB looking up when a mildly low snap slipped through his hands.  We had a running game that was getting hammered in the backfield on just about every play, yet we were able to get a rookie his first 100 yard rushing game.  We had a receiver who had a great day with receptions, over 100 yards receiving, and a touchdown.  Yet, when it came time to have that clutch drive, they couldn't get it done.  We had a big run by our rookie RB and followed that up with a run for a loss when Gerhart got on the field in a situation where we should have been throwing the ball instead of trying to run it again.  We had a defense that did a great job of stopping the run all day long, but they handed the Colts a touchdown with more than 50 yards in penalties on one drive.  We had a rookie starting at RG, an LT who was coming back from being out for a few weeks, and were short a slot receiver.  We had 2 more DBs miss playing time during the game and lost our MLB to injury as well.  We had boneheaded mistakes made on special teams where we got flagged for a gunner leaving the field of play on his own.  The guy we drafted to be our pass rush specialist is standing on the sideline nursing an ACL.  Our best defensive lineman is right there with him trying to come back from his own ACL injury.  We're missing the free agent tight end who gives this offense an element we haven't had here in years, and the guy who is trying to fill that role now makes every catch look like a circus act, if he catches it at all.  We had an offense that moved the ball effectively in the first half, but couldn't get the right call when they got down into scoring range.  We've got a rookie kicker who missed 3 field goals (one with the timeout).  We didn't rack up big points in the 2nd half against a team that has been giving up truckloads of points in the first 3 games of their season. 

 

All of this means what?

 

It's not a good football team yet.  My honest opinion about why we lost that game is that the team was beaten by another bad team that was a hair better when it mattered.  This is a young team that is still trying to find an identity.  The coaches are throwing everything they can at the wall hoping something will eventually stick.  The players are inconsistent in their ability to play clean football.  These are all signs of a young team that needs to pull it all together and learn how to win games they should win.   There's not one single thing you can attribute this or any loss to in most of the games in recent history.  Yesterday was a team loss from the coaches on down to the guys on special teams.


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Quote:You've been sitting on the edge of your seat waiting for a response from me? Why?


We won the turnover battle, but squandered one opportunity and scored on the other. We also had a drive that put us in a position to win the game outright only to have the QB looking up when a mildly low snap slipped through his hands. We had a running game that was getting hammered in the backfield on just about every play, yet we were able to get a rookie his first 100 yard rushing game. We had a receiver who had a great day with receptions, over 100 yards receiving, and a touchdown. Yet, when it came time to have that clutch drive, they couldn't get it done. We had a big run by our rookie RB and followed that up with a run for a loss when Gerhart got on the field in a situation where we should have been throwing the ball instead of trying to run it again. We had a defense that did a great job of stopping the run all day long, but they handed the Colts a touchdown with more than 50 yards in penalties on one drive. We had a rookie starting at RG, an LT who was coming back from being out for a few weeks, and were short a slot receiver. We had 2 more DBs miss playing time during the game and lost our MLB to injury as well. We had boneheaded mistakes made on special teams where we got flagged for a gunner leaving the field of play on his own. The guy we drafted to be our pass rush specialist is standing on the sideline nursing an ACL. Our best defensive lineman is right there with him trying to come back from his own ACL injury. We're missing the free agent tight end who gives this offense an element we haven't had here in years, and the guy who is trying to fill that role now makes every catch look like a circus act, if he catches it at all. We had an offense that moved the ball effectively in the first half, but couldn't get the right call when they got down into scoring range. We've got a rookie kicker who missed 3 field goals (one with the timeout). We didn't rack up big points in the 2nd half against a team that has been giving up truckloads of points in the first 3 games of their season.


All of this means what?


It's not a good football team yet. My honest opinion about why we lost that game is that the team was beaten by another bad team that was a hair better when it mattered. This is a young team that is still trying to find an identity. The coaches are throwing everything they can at the wall hoping something will eventually stick. The players are inconsistent in their ability to play clean football. These are all signs of a young team that needs to pull it all together and learn how to win games they should win. There's not one single thing you can attribute this or any loss to in most of the games in recent history. Yesterday was a team loss from the coaches on down to the guys on special teams.


Fair enough. But you can't expect the fans to be happy with the way this team lost when the other teams best player is on the sidelines. Especially when the coach, before the season started, declared that this team is "built".
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Smh.,.. Just stopping thru..
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Quote:Fair enough. But you can't expect the fans to be happy with the way this team lost when the other teams best player is on the sidelines. Especially when the coach, before the season started, declared that this team is "built".
Feel free to find a single sentence in any post where I have suggested that I expect fans to be happy with the way the team loses ANY game. 

 

Declaring the team built doesn't mean that it's now a playoff contender.  I think a lot of you have misread that statement and twisted it in a way that wasn't intended, but that's fine.  If you think he was saying "It's built" and the team was instantly going to be a contender, then your misconception gives you every right to be upset because Gus lied to you personally.

 

When I saw the statement, I read it to believe his point was that they've now got the foundation pieces in place to turn the corner and become a competitive team.  He wasn't saying it was going to happen in week 1.  The expectation is that year 3 is where the team would turn the corner, and  year 4 is the point where they'd be competing for both the division and the post season.  So, it's built means different things depending on who is interpreting the statement.  Some of you have used that as some sort of indictment, and I find that rather amusing because nobody was expecting this team to be a juggernaut this year.  Almost everyone was predicting at best a .500 season.  But, they were also expecting the team to become the unit that is on the rise as the season progresses.  We're 4 games in.  There's a lot of football left to play, and plenty of opportunity for that to happen.  Whether it does or not will determine Gus' fate.


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Quote:Feel free to find a single sentence in any post where I have suggested that I expect fans to be happy with the way the team loses ANY game.


Declaring the team built doesn't mean that it's now a playoff contender. I think a lot of you have misread that statement and twisted it in a way that wasn't intended, but that's fine. If you think he was saying "It's built" and the team was instantly going to be a contender, then your misconception gives you every right to be upset because Gus lied to you personally.


When I saw the statement, I read it to believe his point was that they've now got the foundation pieces in place to turn the corner and become a competitive team. He wasn't saying it was going to happen in week 1. The expectation is that year 3 is where the team would turn the corner, and year 4 is the point where they'd be competing for both the division and the post season. So, it's built means different things depending on who is interpreting the statement. Some of you have used that as some sort of indictment, and I find that rather amusing because nobody was expecting this team to be a juggernaut this year. Almost everyone was predicting at best a .500 season. But, they were also expecting the team to become the unit that is on the rise as the season progresses. We're 4 games in. There's a lot of football left to play, and plenty of opportunity for that to happen. Whether it does or not will determine Gus' fate.
Does it really takes 3 years tho? Look at the Jets, Falcons,Cardinals... Its kinda sad, really! Gus has had ample time! He just doesnt have it! Im pretty sure the expectation as a coach is to win every game, and be competitive. Not take 3 seasons too lose... Sry its looking like we failed picking up Gus! Back to the Rebuild.
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