Why would he even mention something like this? He knows the NFL, ESPN, and all the other media would LOVE to talk about the Jags moving. 

 

I know this seems wrong at the moment, but this guy has the money to do whatever he wants with this team. He started a complete re-build in hopes of turning this team around, but if it continues down this path - what's the reason for staying in Jax? The city is nothing like LA and the revenue he'd get would be way more than Jacksonville could ever hope to bring in. Having a team in LA and playing in London just screams " Super popular, big market team that plays internationally. "

 

The money he has spent on Jax and the plans he has aren't even final yet. Sure, he's building an indoor facility/arena, but how does that keep the Jags here if everything goes downhill? That's literally a penny he lost, and he wouldn't mind making that back in a new city. This league and the owners just care about the money and Jax is not a place to make that. I wouldn't be surprised if he does have plans to move the team if things don't change. There's no reason to keep the team and restart AGAIN - three years later. Why not make it a complete restart and move on top of it? There's just a negative aura around this team, and the only way to get rid of that is winning. If you can't win (which we can't), the next option would be to move and start fresh.

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Los Angeles ?  I thought we were talking about Lower Alabama . this changes everything.

 

the Mobile Jags sounded soooo good

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Having a team in LA and playing in London just screams " Super popular, big market team that plays internationally. "

No way is an LA team playing one home game a year in London. There's too much money in LA to give that game up when you consider what it would cost in terms of compensating stadium sponsors, season ticket sales and prices, etc.

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No way is an LA team playing one home game a year in London. There's too much money in LA to give that game up when you consider what it would cost in terms of compensating stadium sponsors, season ticket sales and prices, etc.

Maybe, but other teams are playing in London as well and giving up some of their home games. The league wants to expand and the Jags are one of the teams that decided to help do that. The plans to play there once a year won't go away just because of LA.

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Just throwing this out there.  What if "plan C" is something like the overseas games where teams would play a "home game" in LA?  After all, LA is pretty foreign to most people.

 

That's what I got out of it, the NFL would find a way to get 8 or so games there + a super bowl, the fair weather LA fans will get a rotation of teams, and the owners will get some added revenue. 

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Maybe, but other teams are playing in London as well and giving up some of their home games. The league wants to expand and the Jags are one of the teams that decided to help do that. The plans to play there once a year won't go away just because of LA.

I never thought for a second that it would. For as long as the Khan family owns the Jaguars (imo), one home game per year will be played in London. I don't see the LA team(s) being asked to give up a home game anytime soon.

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That's what I got out of it, the NFL would find a way to get 8 or so games there + a super bowl, the fair weather LA fans will get a rotation of teams, and the owners will get some added revenue.

The challenge there would be convincing someone to build a stadium without a team. I don't think the league would want to rely on the Coliseum or Rose Bowl eight times a year.

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The challenge there would be convincing someone to build a stadium without a team. I don't think the league would want to rely on the Coliseum or Rose Bowl eight times a year.

 

Wasn't the NFL floating an idea some years ago of just building a stadium itself, although it could have just been some click bait I remember with little substance

 

either way I wish LA would take Plan B, so we no longer have to hear about it. 

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Why would he even mention something like this? He knows the NFL, ESPN, and all the other media would LOVE to talk about the Jags moving.


I know this seems wrong at the moment, but this guy has the money to do whatever he wants with this team. He started a complete re-build in hopes of turning this team around, but if it continues down this path - what's the reason for staying in Jax? The city is nothing like LA and the revenue he'd get would be way more than Jacksonville could ever hope to bring in. Having a team in LA and playing in London just screams " Super popular, big market team that plays internationally. "


The money he has spent on Jax and the plans he has aren't even final yet. Sure, he's building an indoor facility/arena, but how does that keep the Jags here if everything goes downhill? That's literally a penny he lost, and he wouldn't mind making that back in a new city. This league and the owners just care about the money and Jax is not a place to make that. I wouldn't be surprised if he does have plans to move the team if things don't change. There's no reason to keep the team and restart AGAIN - three years later. Why not make it a complete restart and move on top of it? There's just a negative aura around this team, and the only way to get rid of that is winning. If you can't win (which we can't), the next option would be to move and start fresh.

Was there anything mentioned about the Jags moving in any of the links you see or any reports from ESPN, NFLN, etc?


Khan hasn't become a BILLIONAIRE by frivolously spending money on multi million dollar investments like practice facilities, giant score boards and stadium renovations inside and out. If his sole intention was to move the team to LA or London or anywhere else he would have done like Stan Kronke had done which is absolutely nothing. He would sit back let the product/stadium deteriorate and move.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Was there anything mentioned about the Jags moving in any of the links you see or any reports from ESPN, NFLN, etc?


Khan hasn't become a BILLIONAIRE by frivolously spending money on multi million dollar investments like practice facilities, giant score boards and stadium renovations inside and out. If his sole intention was to move the team to LA or London or anywhere else he would have done like Stan Kronke had done which is absolutely nothing. He would sit back let the product/stadium deteriorate and move.

Which is why I said it wouldn't make sense at this moment. Things would have to get really bad for him to move this team, and fans are getting tired of losing every season. If the team isn't winning in the next few years, that'll be an issue. Khan has already spent a ton of money to get fans to the stadium and it has worked, but they'll stop going completely if the product on the field stays the same. Ticket sales would drop drastically and there's nothing Khan can really do at that point. Moving this team is still an option 100% if things get very, very bad.

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Which is why I said it wouldn't make sense at this moment. Things would have to get really bad for him to move this team, and fans are getting tired of losing every season. If the team isn't winning in the next few years, that'll be an issue. Khan has already spent a ton of money to get fans to the stadium and it has worked, but they'll stop going completely if the product on the field stays the same. Ticket sales would drop drastically and there's nothing Khan can really do at that point. Moving this team is still an option 100% if things get very, very bad.

Its been bad the past 10 years yet nothing has happened. In 75+ years of football a team has yet to move due to ticket sales. Do you think the fans of the Browns, the Bills, the Raiders, and the Lions and Bengals of the past aren't tired of losing? And they've been losing long than the Jags have been around. Yet they still show up to the games and the team is still supported. Maybe not to the fullest extent, but it's still supported. Regardless, ticket sales are only a small portion of the overall revenue stream and the NFL has reached such a high level of popularity an owner doesn't really have to do anything at this point to turn a profit. Just look at what the team is worth now compared to three years ago when Khan bought it.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Wasn't the NFL floating an idea some years ago of just building a stadium itself, although it could have just been some click bait I remember with little substance

 

either way I wish LA would take Plan B, so we no longer have to hear about it. 

Unfortunately, when it comes to the NFL in Los Angeles, there's got to be a morning after.

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Its been bad the past 10 years yet nothing has happened. In 75+ years of football a team has yet to move due to ticket sales. Do you think the fans of the Browns, the Bills, the Raiders, and the Lions and Bengals of the past aren't tired of losing? And they've been losing long than the Jags have been around. Yet they still show up to the games and the team is still supported. Maybe not to the fullest extent, but it's still supported. Regardless, ticket sales are only a small portion of the overall revenue stream and the NFL has reached such a high level of popularity an owner doesn't really have to do anything at this point to turn a profit. Just look at what the team is worth now compared to three years ago when Khan bought it.

Those teams have been around much longer than the Jags have, and have had a lot of success with a loyal fan-base backing them up. The past 10 years don't matter here anymore, and Weaver made it clear he didn't want to move the team out of Jax - which is probably the reason why we didn't. Even when giving ownership to Khan, he personally asked him to keep the team in Jacksonville. I don't think Khan wants to move the team at all, and he's made it clear with his future plans for the city/team. Although, it'd be silly to think that there is no chance the team will move and its here for good... Anything can happen.

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Those teams have been around much longer than the Jags have, and have had a lot of success with a loyal fan-base backing them up. The past 10 years don't matter here anymore, and Weaver made it clear he didn't want to move the team out of Jax - which is probably the reason why we didn't. Even when giving ownership to Khan, he personally asked him to keep the team in Jacksonville. I don't think Khan wants to move the team at all, and he's made it clear with his future plans for the city/team. Although, it'd be silly to think that there is no chance the team will move and its here for good... Anything can happen.

Weaver asked Khan not to move the team, yeah, but he also wrote in (I believe, might be off on the exact terms) a $250M payment due from Khan to Weaver if Khan moved the team within ten years of purchasing it.

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It amazes me that no one will speak up about what exactly are the reasons that LA can't get a team there. It just seems like it's a major money grab and once folks get that idea the line for getting their share goes around the block.

 

Someone did speak up about that. I read LA residents don't want to pay taxes on a stadium facility. The NFL interpreted that as meaning the area lacks public support when they voted for Houston over Los Angeles. I believe this because of the Metrodome situation: state lawmakers repeatedly refused to allow tax money to be used for a new stadium until a blizzard caused the roof to collapse. That is why the Vikings had to wait forever to get a new stadium built. The NFL wants a team in LA for one reason: it has the second-largest TV market. Teams want to stay where they are, not move to an area where people won't pay for their new stadiums.

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Weaver asked Khan not to move the team, yeah, but he also wrote in (I believe, might be off on the exact terms) a $250M payment due from Khan to Weaver if Khan moved the team within ten years of purchasing it.

 

I read the agreement to stay in Jacksonville is not in writing. Khan just verbally promised to keep the team where it is.

 

My only complaint about Khan is his commitment to London. Why does he want the team to play there every year after paying for all those renovations at Everbank Field?

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I read the agreement to stay in Jacksonville is not in writing. Khan just verbally promised to keep the team where it is.

 

My only complaint about Khan is his commitment to London. Why does he want the team to play there every year after paying for all those renovations at Everbank Field?

 

The London games provide huge revenue. 

 

As much as I would rather see the Jaguars play all 8 home games in Jacksonville and all NFL games played in the United States ( or Canada ), Shad Khan believes that the Jaguars future in Jacksonville depends greatly on the team playing a game per season in London.

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I read the agreement to stay in Jacksonville is not in writing. Khan just verbally promised to keep the team where it is.

 

My only complaint about Khan is his commitment to London. Why does he want the team to play there every year after paying for all those renovations at Everbank Field?

 

Didn't Lamping say before that the London game accounted for like 20% of the teams local revenue.  Seems a good reason to keep doing it. 

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How about this for a "Plan C" ?


Rams to LA, and two new franchises - one in St Louis and the other in London.


And for those people who say LA won't support an NFL team, you could have said the same thing about London 10 years ago. Not saying it will definitely work, but maybe things change.

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I just wish he hadn't commented on it......raiders,chargers and rams been dealing with their turn in the "team that's going to move" box.

Innocent as it may have been....it just put Jaguars back in the mix in some of the medias minds.

Anyway, it will all blow over soon. Those teams are looking at moves because of old facilities.

 

The Jaguars have a really nice stadium Thanks to Khan and his bringing Lamping here.

like any true fan, I get outdone with their play, but I'll never leave as a fan.

 

I can't believe that Khan will not make the changes to produce a winner. It would have to be less expensive than moving.

also, the longer the fins and bucs struggle..... its an opportunity to pick up some of their fans.

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