Oh so i guess beating the Texans n Tenn, then getting a W handed to them by us means dominant. This must be a new formula for success. I hope we click on offense and defense plays tighter so when we play the colts again we get a W because o m g. If record means superbowl or one of the best after 5 weeks then i know what teams are Superbowl bound already, thanks for the vegas secret. I guess the colts should ask Jerry for price tips and start selling those home playoff tickets lol.


What's funny is you same colt riders would laugh if the Jags had the same record and us fans were pumping this dominating the divsion [BAD WORD REMOVED]. I guess the afc south is the bar that tells us who's good and who's pretending in the NFL since beating mediocre division opponents is the true test of greatness. All hope is lost.

Please just stop. Don't crap on yourself any longer. It's embarrassing.

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Not to mention when his team puts him, Allen Hurns, and Allen Robinson in situations where they have to do EVERYTHING.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they ask them to pass rush, or play on the DL.

 

Maybe chase ball carriers from the LB position.

 

Nobody else seems to be able to.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Please just stop. Don't crap on yourself any longer. It's embarrassing.

I cant even begin to comprehend the points he's trying to make. I mean, im not the fartest smeller in the world, but seriously, lets go over some of these gems;

 

• Because Indy didn't blow out the division opponents with their backup QB in, that somehow deletes their record and makes them not true division leaders.
  
• We would be mad if our team if our team was 3-2 (with a backup QB in) because the fans would be excited.
  
• We lost to the aforementioned team, were severely disappointed, we post on the Jaguars message board, but we're "Colt riders".
  
• Says the Colts are ***ONLY*** missing Andrew Luck, possibly the next great QB, and that equates to us missing Paul Poz.
  
• Says that we claim " all teams have injuries and thats no excuse" (which it isnt) in an attempt of bashing the Colts... but THE COLTS ARE WINNING. (this one is so dumb its confusing, so ill put the whole quote on here.
  

" The only reason they even came up is because alot of people here were saying how embarrassing it is to lose to a colts team missing only one true superstar ala Andrew luck.  Then they say that all teams have injuries and thats no excuse to lose.  See how thats contradictory."

• Says the Colts are only good in the AFC South... When WE are in the AFC South... and cant beat them without their starting QB in.
  
• Says " We're preseason tarot readers " When week 6 is in 4 days.
  
• Claims we lost to the Colts without our superstar QB, when he's played every single snap this year.
  
• Actually used the words " pretty much could've won" against the Panthers ( minus their ACTUAL superstar MLB, I might add), but then goes on to defend the loss because the Panthers are undefeated and they went to the playoffs last year. I thought we " Pretty much could've won that game"?
  

 

And this guy says WE are the kindergartners? Does that make him a fetus? Is this guy typing with his feet?

 

Sorry to ramble, I just find this guy absolutely fascinating.

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It is an old, old truism; you do not bite the hand that feeds you. Tony and Jeff are employed by the franchise, so what do you expect them to say? The Jags suck and Gus sucks even louder? It isn't going to happen folks. I remember listening to those guys defending Gene Smith on their Wednesday evening show before Gene got fired. It's what they are expected to do; they are (along with Johnny O) the franchise apologists. And you know what, since they were once part of a good Jaguars team, they have automatic credibility... at least, that's what the franchise is counting on.

 

But here's the thing... 

FACTS:

the sun rises in the morning

you're born, you pay taxes, you die

... and 8-29 is undeniably, incredibly, B A D!

 

you can spend your whole life trying to deny it but with a record of 8-29, there can be only two possibilites;

either your GM selected incredibly untalented players and should be fired, or

your HC is incredibly not up to coaching in the NFL and he should be fired.

 

actually, there is a third possibility...

both of the earlier possibilities could be true and both the GM and head coach should be fired.

 

I'm not a 'sport forum anarchist' who just wants to tear down the team just for the sake of causing misery. But as I view this teams performance so far this season and the statements made by the head coach (the team is built...) I don't have confidence that the end of season record is going to be better that what we've seen the last two years. We were told we should reasonably expect to see a better record this season; not a super bowl run, but a better end of season record. It ain't gonna happen people. We're now being told by Jeff Lageman that the team just needs more time. It was my understanding prior to the start of this season that Shad Khan had indicated that he was not going to tolerate another 4-12 season or worse.

 

So... let the chips fall and lets see what happens. If things don't turn around drastically for this team (and I am refering to winning more games, not just more impressive statistics from individual players) I'll be waiting to see if at the end of the season if Khan drops the hammer.

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Here's the ultimate fear...


Marks comes back, the offense continues to get better, and we wind up 7-9 IN SPITE of Bradley. Because of the strong finish, he is kept another year...


It's a long shot, but it could happen...

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Here's the ultimate fear...


Marks comes back, the offense continues to get better, and we wind up 7-9 IN SPITE of Bradley. Because of the strong finish, he is kept another year...


It's a long shot, but it could happen...

So who would you say is the reason for success if the team starts winning.  I see the agenda crew blame Bradley for every mistake the team makes so who gets props  for the positive.

 

I'm not even going to continue debating my earlier point.  Every football fan i've discussed this with understands what im saying.  If you don't see it, that just proves you have an agenda and aren't trying too.  

 

Its a shame part time jags fans and die hard non message board members can understand what im talking about in less than a few sentences; but you so called MB true fans can't see it. That says it all.

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Season Tix, Section 409

2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough.
TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter.

Here's the ultimate fear...


Marks comes back, the offense continues to get better, and we wind up 7-9 IN SPITE of Bradley. Because of the strong finish, he is kept another year...


It's a long shot, but it could happen...

it is possible, but that is, indeed, a very long shot at this point.

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So who would you say is the reason for success if the team starts winning.  I see the agenda crew blame Bradley for every mistake the team makes so who gets props  for the positive.

 

I'm not even going to continue debating my earlier point.  Every football fan i've discussed this with understands what im saying.  If you don't see it, that just proves you have an agenda and aren't trying too.  

 

Its a shame part time jags fans and die hard non message board members can understand what im talking about in less than a few sentences; but you so called MB true fans can't see it. That says it all.

 

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Here's the ultimate fear...


Marks comes back, the offense continues to get better, and we wind up 7-9 IN SPITE of Bradley. Because of the strong finish, he is kept another year...


It's a long shot, but it could happen...

If we win it's in spite of him and if we lose it's because of him? Not sure I agree. I don't think he is doing a good job but it isn't a "fear" that we end up 7-9. That should be something we all hope for. If we end up 7-9 that means we finish 6-5 which would be incredible for how we started. I wouldn't mind keeping gus another year if we did that. I'm not sure why it's a fear if we end up 7-9. Just seems like a situation where you don't want the team to do well just so he gets fired. That's a little backward. It should be if the team isn't doing well like it is now then you can talk about firing the coach. If he end 7-9 it's safe to say Gus isn't as bad as some think. That being said that record is a dream scenario.

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Here's the ultimate fear...


Marks comes back, the offense continues to get better, and we wind up 7-9 IN SPITE of Bradley. Because of the strong finish, he is kept another year...


It's a long shot, but it could happen...

 

If Gus can pull out a 7-9 season then he deserves to be back for another year.


 

Odds are a lot higher that the Jags just leave him in London. Maybe his rah rah style works better in metric football.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

If Gus can pull out a 7-9 season then he deserves to be back for another year.


 

Odds are a lot higher that the Jags just leave him in London. Maybe his rah rah style works better in metric football.

 

I mentioned in other threads that if he get's to 7-9 he probably won't be fired...  I just worry that even after a 7-9 season, the reason we get that record is in spite of Bradley, not because of him.

 

But hey, stranger things have happened...  Maybe he's finally figuring out how to be a HC...  I'm just not overly confident of it.

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I mentioned in other threads that if he get's to 7-9 he probably won't be fired... I just worry that even after a 7-9 season, the reason we get that record is in spite of Bradley, not because of him.


But hey, stranger things have happened... Maybe he's finally figuring out how to be a HC... I'm just not overly confident of it.

If we go 7-9 it won't be in spite of him lol. I know you aren't necessarily saying this but some people say they want to lose just so Gus gets fired. I think that is beyond stupid.

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If we win it's in spite of him and if we lose it's because of him? Not sure I agree. I don't think he is doing a good job but it isn't a "fear" that we end up 7-9. That should be something we all hope for. If we end up 7-9 that means we finish 6-5 which would be incredible for how we started. I wouldn't mind keeping gus another year if we did that. I'm not sure why it's a fear if we end up 7-9. Just seems like a situation where you don't want the team to do well just so he gets fired. That's a little backward. It should be if the team isn't doing well like it is now then you can talk about firing the coach. If he end 7-9 it's safe to say Gus isn't as bad as some think. That being said that record is a dream scenario.

 

I get what you're saying, I really do...

 

But, here's my theory--- Now mind you, I'm rarely every correct--- 

 

My theory is that the players that Caldwell has put together are legit.  Yes, he has misses, so don't throw Toby into this...  I'm saying that overall, this team has legitimate NFL starters.  Some are average, but they are NFL average.  But we have enough very good players and a couple pro-bowl level players that make this team capable of going 6-5 for the rest of this season no matter the coach...

 

That's the fear.  That the coach cannot ever get these players to perform at top levels to get over the hump...  

 

To me, in my mind, the AFCS is a division in which the jaguars as currently constructed are the most talented overall.  Clearly, the odds of us winning the division this season and making the playoffs has been hindered with the last 2 games we've lost.  But there's no doubt as Marks comes back, and we get JT80 back into full strength, this team just by talent alone can win 6 out of the next 11 games...  

 

But, how much is that coaching and how much is that the talent acquisition of Caldwell...  At the moment, I give more respect to the GM than I do the HC.  Maybe things change over the next 3 months...  We'll see...

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If we go 7-9 it won't be in spite of him lol. I know you aren't necessarily saying this but some people say they want to lose just so Gus gets fired. I think that is beyond stupid.

 

 

No, I agree.  If we go 7-9, depending on how the clots do, we may just make the playoffs.  That is all I want!  

 

But, as a topic to discuss, I'm giving you a "worst case" scenario...  

 

At the end of the day, if we go 7-9. I will more than likely argue to give Bradley one last year to figure it out.  I'm just at the point where I don't have faith in him has a HC.  He's a great guy.  A real dude...  He's very likable...  I just don't think he's HC material.  Maybe I'm wrong...  I hope I am.  But the last 2 games have made me lose faith in him.

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it is possible, but that is, indeed, a very long shot at this point.

7-9 is a long shot? Well dare I utter my 9-7 hopes?

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You Gotta Be Able To Run Da' Rock~

7-9 is a long shot? Well dare I utter my 9-7 hopes?

 

It's possible...  Anything is possible...  We have the talent to beat the next two teams... 

 

We had the talent to be the last 2 teams...  

 

It's all about coaching and getting our talent to perform, and putting them in positions to excel...

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For the sake of boredom, i'll show you how YOU make no sense.

I cant even begin to comprehend the points he's trying to make. I mean, im not the fartest smeller in the world, but seriously, lets go over some of these gems;

 

• Because Indy didn't blow out the division opponents with their backup QB in, that somehow deletes their record and makes them not true division leaders.
  

Didn't say that.  What i said was that their record is a product of who they've played.  I guess that must be the elite in the NFL not the AFCS, and from your comment i guess WITH luck they must be unstoppable to this Jags roster.  Well you say its the coach so whichever.

• We would be mad if our team if our team was 3-2 (with a backup QB in) because the fans would be excited.
  

I didn't say with a backup QB, you did.  I said with that record you would still be complaining because you want GUS fired that badly.

• We lost to the aforementioned team, were severely disappointed, we post on the Jaguars message board, but we're "Colt riders".
  

Reread all of the complaints posted on here and you tell me whether that sounds like good logic from true fans.  If you think it does, read no further.

• Says the Colts are ***ONLY*** missing Andrew Luck, possibly the next great QB, and that equates to us missing Paul Poz.
  

Never said that and still don't see how you get that from what i said.  Reading Comprehension.  From what i've read about injuries though, i think thats more what your saying since every team has injuries correct.

• Says that we claim " all teams have injuries and thats no excuse" (which it isnt) in an attempt of bashing the Colts... but THE COLTS ARE WINNING. (this one is so dumb its confusing, so ill put the whole quote on here.
  

Didn't bash the colts i was just stating that they can be beaten, with or without luck.  if the Jags beat Ten, Hou, and the colts (in the series finale) i guess our season outlook should skyrocket to division contenders for the future too based on those wins.  That is concerning seeing that Bradley is the problem to you, so i guess the players will win on their own if they accomplish that.

 

" The only reason they even came up is because alot of people here were saying how embarrassing it is to lose to a colts team missing only one true superstar ala Andrew luck.  Then they say that all teams have injuries and thats no excuse to lose.  See how thats contradictory." lol its over your head.

• Says the Colts are only good in the AFC South... When WE are in the AFC South... and cant beat them without their starting QB in.
  

I guess the missed field goal and mistakes this team made showed you that we can't beat them.  Andrew luck must make them unstoppable even though he's had INT problems his whole career.  You should root for them, seriously.

• Says " We're preseason tarot readers " When week 6 is in 4 days. 
  

So who did you pick as wins through these first 5 weeks before the season started since its over your head.  Let me see your preseason prediction because hindsight isn't an artform.

• Claims we lost to the Colts without our superstar QB, when he's played every single snap this year.
  

I didn't say we didn't have Blake.  Again your clueless.

• Actually used the words " pretty much could've won" against the Panthers ( minus their ACTUAL superstar MLB, I might add), but then goes on to defend the loss because the Panthers are undefeated and they went to the playoffs last year. I thought we " Pretty much could've won that game"?
  

We could have and if JT80 wasn't playing then couldn't we use the same excuse of not having our superstar.  All i said was that the game was winnable whether Luke played or not.  We didn't have Lee, JT80, Marks, nor Branch.  Not saying branch is gamechanging but do you not think those other "Jag Superstars" wouldn't have made a difference.  I know Kelvin was out too but one team coming off a playoff year and another from the top of the draft is not a winnable game before the season starts in any odds. 

 

Your just upset because you've seen progress and are upset because these games have been winnable and we have blown chances.  It happens and if it continues then GB will be fired.  We fix the errors and he won't, simple as that.  Get over your fire Bradley agenda and try and come up with solutions instead of names for his job.  I guess you know what each replacement is going to bring to this team and already see the vision.  I would love to hear who and how that will play out since you already have all of the Jaguars' problems figured out.

 

And this guy says WE are the kindergartners? Does that make him a fetus? Is this guy typing with his feet?

 

Sorry to ramble, I just find this guy absolutely fascinating.

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Season Tix, Section 409

2023 and still counting.....SB will finally be ours soon enough.
TLaw aka 'the prince that was promised' supporter.

The most annoying part about the Jaguars during Bradley's tenure is that the players obviously have progressed. But I dont feel like he has progressed one bit as a Head Coach. Thus hindering the team. Which explains a 1-4 record despite your young players producing this far

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For the sake of boredom, i'll show you how YOU make no sense.

Right, it's not like everybody in this thread has no idea what the hell you're talking about, including yourself.


" WHY IS EVERYONE STUPID EXCEPT FOR ME!?!?!?!?"

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I never understand the "this team would be 4-1 or 3-2, if the Jags didnt have mistakes or injuries"...lol...what-ifs are nice if you aren't being balanced with them...no team is devoid of mistakes or injuries. 

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