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Best wide receiver duo in the NFL?

#41

Quote:Gus has done ZERO in regards to BB5's development.  That's the thing.  Gus needs to realize he has to do something to fix the D...  

Maybe, you know, light a fire under the D?  

 

You know, like a "do your job" type speech?
So he is responsible for the all the suckness but gets ZERO credit for the obvious improvements?

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#42

Quote:So he is responsible for the all the suckness but gets ZERO credit for the obvious improvements?
 

Oh...  Did Gus become an offensive genius when I was in my coma?  

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#43

If Gus helped blake it's off the field stuff like watching tape and general mindset about the game. But that's part of his development. Olsen gets the praise for the way the offense looks on the field. Gus doesn't do any offensive play calling as I'm aware.
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#44
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2015, 08:58 PM by Jagwired.)

Quote:Oh...  Did Gus become an offensive genius when I was in my coma?  
I'm just trying to understand. He screwed if he does and he screwed if he doesn't? He fired Fisch and hired Olsen. Something has lead to this duos and Blakes improvements.

 

You really didn't answer the question/statement.

 

edit: spelling


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#45
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2015, 08:58 PM by The_Anchorman.)

Quote:I'm just trying to understand. He screwed if he does and he screwed if he doesn't? He fired Fisch and hired Olsen. Something has lead two this duos and Blakes improvements.

 

You really didn't answer the question/statement. 
 

OK, so do you think it's Gus that has fixed the offense?  Or do you think Gus hired 2 coaches, Marrone and Olsen that have fixed the offense?

 

BTW, there's a real good possibility we only score 13 this Sunday.  Cuz you know, law of averages...


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#46

In all honesty, the coaching changes probably helped since Olsen is much better than fisch. However maybe the biggest change is new offensive linemen in addition to our QB and too WR getting experience.
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#47

As for our scoring. I think with JT we will more consistently put up 20+ just for the fact that he draws a lot of attention. If you paid attention Arob and hurns were left in one on ones and JT was getting safety help on him a lot.
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#48

Quote:In all honesty, the coaching changes probably helped since Olsen is much better than fisch. However maybe the biggest change is new offensive linemen in addition to our QB and too WR getting experience.
 

The O line has had some bad breaks...  It's more the fact that we got rid of Fish than anything.  Coaching really matters.  That old zombie named Vic groans "players not plays" and it kills your brain.  But the fact is that coaching matters.  It just does.  WE have players.  WE need a coach that pushes us over the top.

 

You need a leader.  You just do.  That's how it works...

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#49

Quote:As for our scoring. I think with JT we will more consistently put up 20+ just for the fact that he draws a lot of attention. If you paid attention Arob and hurns were left in one on ones and JT was getting safety help on him a lot.
 

Possibly.  I'll consider that...  However, I'm not going to concede it.  I deleted the Bucs game, but the AR15 TD in the corner of the endzone was a play when JT80 was on the sideline.

 

What about the Yeldon TD?  Yeldon ran all the way around the entire field to get open, and BB5 found him.  That has nothing to do with JT80.  That was passion by  BB5 and Yeldon.  

 

There are alot of plays where our offense is just doing things that we've never seen before.  Our offense is legit.  They just need to keep being aggressive.  

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#50

Quote:OK, so do you think it's Gus that has fixed the offense?  Or do you think Gus hired 2 coaches, Marrone and Olsen that have fixed the offense?

 

BTW, there's a real good possibility we only score 13 this Sunday.  Cuz you know, law of averages...
It's all of the above. I'm just saying, if Gus gets the blame for all that's wrong he should receive credit where due. You obviously have a different view on whether or not he is due any.

 

Also there is the possibility that they throw up a fifty burger.

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#51
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2015, 09:16 PM by Pujo.)

Quote:Possibly. I'll consider that... However, I'm not going to concede it. I deleted the Bucs game, but the AR15 TD in the corner of the endzone was a play when JT80 was on the sideline.


What about the Yeldon TD? Yeldon ran all the way around the entire field to get open, and BB5 found him. That has nothing to do with JT80. That was passion by BB5 and Yeldon.


There are alot of plays where our offense is just doing things that we've never seen before. Our offense is legit. They just need to keep being aggressive.
Yeah you're right for sure but I'm just saying the plays he is on the field it's opening up a lot for more consistent drives.
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#52

Quote:The O line has had some bad breaks...  It's more the fact that we got rid of Fish than anything.  Coaching really matters.  That old zombie named Vic groans "players not plays" and it kills your brain.  But the fact is that coaching matters.  It just does.  WE have players.  WE need a coach that pushes us over the top.

 

You need a leader.  You just do.  That's how it works...
 

It does make you wonder what a HC like Jim Harbaugh could do with an up and coming team like the Jags considering the guy has been highly successful at his last several coaching stops.

 

I know he has a tendency to wear out his welcome after a few years, but man he can coach and brings some real intensity.

I survived the Gus Bradley Error.
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#53

Quote:It's all of the above. I'm just saying, if Gus gets the blame for all that's wrong he should receive credit where due. You obviously have a different view on whether or not he is due any.

 

Also there is the possibility that they throw up a fifty burger.
 

I hate to be negative.  I really do.

 

But you're right.  I'm not gonna give Gus any credit for how the offense has progressed.

 

Now if he figures out how to actually run this D, then I'll say he is our guy...  But I just don't see it.  He's just not that smart.  I wonder all the time what the heck gus thinks about all week.  I go to work, hand out with my kids, spend time with my wife, and I still see that there should be things Gus should do differently.

 

 

This guys has at least 8 hours to figure out how to actually prepare this team, and he still disappoints.  He better figure it out quick.  Cuz coaching a football team is alot easier than living real life...  Sorry, but it just is.  If you're living 10 hours figuring stuff out, you should probably already have figured it out.  

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#54

Quote:It's all of the above. I'm just saying, if Gus gets the blame for all that's wrong he should receive credit where due. You obviously have a different view on whether or not he is due any.

 

Also there is the possibility that they throw up a fifty burger.
 

Um, there is literally no chance that the Jags will be putting up any fifty burgers in any one game this season.

 

Now if you are talking about over a 2 or 3 game stretch, now that is a possibility, especially since they put up 31 against the Bucs, but a fifty burger over 1 game, that's just not going to happen.

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#55

Quote:It does make you wonder what a HC like Jim Harbaugh could do with an up and coming team like the Jags considering the guy has been highly successful at his last several coaching stops.

 

I know he has a tendency to wear out his welcome after a few years, but man he can coach and brings some real intensity.
 

Look at Michigan.  They were AWEFULL last year.  They are killing it now...  Why is that?  Uh...  Maybe cuz coaching matters????

 

 

That old fart that brainwashed this fan base should be praised for his outstanding work.  "Players not plays".  Yeah... Right....

 

Of course you need good players.  But even good players cannot be successful if your coach is weak minded and not focused on winning.

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#56

Quote:Um, there is literally no chance that the Jags will be putting up any fifty burgers in any one game this season.

 

Now if you are talking about over a 2 or 3 game stretch, now that is a possibility, especially since they put up 31 against the Bucs, but a fifty burger over 1 game, that's just not going to happen.
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#57

Quote:I hate to be negative.  I really do.

 

But you're right.  I'm not gonna give Gus any credit for how the offense has progressed.

 

Now if he figures out how to actually run this D, then I'll say he is our guy...  But I just don't see it.  He's just not that smart.  I wonder all the time what the heck gus thinks about all week.  I go to work, hand out with my kids, spend time with my wife, and I still see that there should be things Gus should do differently.

 

 

This guys has at least 8 hours to figure out how to actually prepare this team, and he still disappoints.  He better figure it out quick.  Cuz coaching a football team is alot easier than living real life...  Sorry, but it just is.  If you're living 10 hours figuring stuff out, you should probably already have figured it out.  
....and I'm not going to assign him any blame for the teams shortcomings. See how that works? it's never one thing man.

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#58

Quote:....and I'm not going to assign him any blame for the teams shortcomings. See how that works? it's never one thing man.
 

eh....  I don't know...  He's a defensive minded coach.  He's scheming the D to bend and not break.  He's concerned about getting better, but not about winning.

 

These are things that you can blame him for.  He's creating a conservative and a soft team.  He's not creating a team with an edge and a passion to win games.

 

He prefers "getting better" and competing.  That's AYSO stuff.  That's great if you are coaching kids.

 

This ain't a kids game...

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#59
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2015, 09:56 PM by jtmoney.)

I have to agree on the defense.  Not pressing, hardly any turnovers and I don't think one db/cb has an int (dead last in turnover ratio?) and we just started blitzing a few games ago.  I just don't think you can teach aggressiveness when you play passive.  And it is showing in the stats.  

 

Also, no one has seemed to address this and I have brought it up a few times.  Why are we going after lengthy CB/DBs who are physical if we aren't going to press the receivers at the line?  I'm just not understanding how one of the best attributes of our CB/DBs isn't being used.  Gus isn't dumb so anyone have an idea to the reason?

 

If you go into every game defensively basically doing the same thing on tape then you are making it easy for the offense.  You are showing them where you can be beat constantly.  This obviously makes you predictable and being predictable has got to be one of the worst traits of the Jaguars over these many years of bottom dwelling.  Also one of the biggest criticisms.  You cannot be afraid to win.  You cannot play to not lose.  I just feel like that is what we have been doing and that part to me is the most frustrating.



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#60

Quote:Brown and Bryant
 

 

When I saw Brown I was thinking Brown and Fitz, but actually Brown and Bryant are doing a tad better as a duo.


 

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