Here's a name I don't hear mentioned but I'd like to learn more about:  Rick Dennison.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Here's a name I don't hear mentioned but I'd like to learn more about:  Rick Dennison.

He's another of the Shanahan/Elway/Kubiak guys. On the one hand, he does have a ton of experience all over the field (played linebacker and has coached special teams, offensive line, quarterbacks and coordinated). On the other, he's got sort of a Gary Kubiak feel to him: the guy's been an assistant coach in the NFL since 1995 and has, for the most part, been coaching good teams. He's got eight years (including 2015) as an offensive coordinator under his belt, plus four as a special teams coach.

 

Why hasn't he gotten a head job yet?

 

I did like the idea of Dennison as an offensive coordinator candidate last year because of his experience coaching both the line and quarterbacks--two areas that I thought needed the most attention.

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Kyle Shanahan, OC for the Falcons please.

Indeed.

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Indeed.

I don't think he's anywhere near ready to be a HC

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Three other guys I'd look into are Kirk Ferentz, Brian Kelly and Mike Shula


Ferentz is older, but so was Coughlin and that ended up being a pretty good decision back then. I've always been impressed with how he gets the most out of his teams no matter how much talent he has.Once again, he has his team rolling this year. I think it's an interesting idea.


Kelly because I firmly believe he has the right temperament to be an NFL coach. He is an attention to details guy and will light a fire under his players. I think his style would fit well with this team. They need a leader like Kelly and I think he'd get the most out of these players.


Shula is a familiar face as he's worked with the Jags before. He's been a coordinator for a long time so he has experience and really has done a fantastic job in Carolina this year with a group of largely underwhelming receivers. Plus who knows, maybe hiring Shula's kid would finally lift this "Marino Phins" curse haha 

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Three other guys I'd look into are Kirk Ferentz, Brian Kelly and Mike Shula


Ferentz is older, but so was Coughlin and that ended up being a pretty good decision back then. I've always been impressed with how he gets the most out of his teams no matter how much talent he has.Once again, he has his team rolling this year. I think it's an interesting idea.


Kelly because I firmly believe he has the right temperament to be an NFL coach. He is an attention to details guy and will light a fire under his players. I think his style would fit well with this team. They need a leader like Kelly and I think he'd get the most out of these players.


Shula is a familiar face as he's worked with the Jags before. He's been a coordinator for a long time so he has experience and really has done a fantastic job in Carolina this year with a group of largely underwhelming receivers. Plus who knows, maybe hiring Shula's kid would finally lift this "Marino Phins" curse haha 

I want nothing to do with college coaches at this point. They've almost all flamed out lately. The head coaching position in college is a completely different animal than it is in the NFL.

 

I'm also wary of second-generation Shulas. Remember Dave? 

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I want nothing to do with college coaches at this point. They've almost all flamed out lately. The head coaching position in college is a completely different animal than it is in the NFL.

 

I'm also wary of second-generation Shulas. Remember Dave? 

I agree,it's absolutely crucial we get this next HC hire right. That being said if we were to hire someone from the college ranks I think Gary Patterson would be my pick ,love his 4-2-5 defense and is an extremely passionate coach with a brilliant understanding of the Xs and Os.  

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He's another of the Shanahan/Elway/Kubiak guys. On the one hand, he does have a ton of experience all over the field (played linebacker and has coached special teams, offensive line, quarterbacks and coordinated). On the other, he's got sort of a Gary Kubiak feel to him: the guy's been an assistant coach in the NFL since 1995 and has, for the most part, been coaching good teams. He's got eight years (including 2015) as an offensive coordinator under his belt, plus four as a special teams coach.

 

Why hasn't he gotten a head job yet?

 

I did like the idea of Dennison as an offensive coordinator candidate last year because of his experience coaching both the line and quarterbacks--two areas that I thought needed the most attention.

John Harbaugh was a coordinator/assistant for 24 years before becoming Head Coach of the Ravens in 2008.


Sean Payton coached 18 years before getting the head coach gig for the Saints.


I do understand some apprehension -- Gus was a coordinator for 20 years before becoming a head coach.  But Rex Ryan also took 20 years.   Todd Bowles was a coordinator for 18 years before becoming a head coach.  Andy Reid spent 15 years as a coach before getting a head coaching gig.  John Fox became a defensive backs coach in 1979 and didn't get a head coaching gig until 22 years later in 2002.  Bruce Arians got his first position as a position coach in 1978, then got his first head coaching gig 35 years later in 2013.  

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

This entire thread is the counterpoint to the no trading for a coach school of thought. All the available options suck. Hue Jackson might be the best option but even still hardly franchise changing. We aren't getting Saban and sumlin isn't on the radar.


Only way Saban is coming to the NFL is for the Cowboys or giants gig.

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This entire thread is the counterpoint to the no trading for a coach school of thought. All the available options suck. Hue Jackson might be the best option but even still hardly franchise changing. We aren't getting Saban and sumlin isn't on the radar.


Only way Saban is coming to the NFL is for the Cowboys or giants gig.

I'm not sure if I would want to go after Saban. He is going to be 64 next year, which would make him the 2nd oldest coach in the league behind Coughlin.

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Wade Phillips

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Ugh Greg Roman, I mean I know they have a bad qb situation in Buffalo but there offense struggles to me. He seems very ground and pound stylistically. I think Todd Haley would be pretty good considering what he has done in Pittsburgh. The Pats DC, I do like him he gears up some nice plays and there defense isn't even that good. Haley with a really good DC sounds nice get the air it out offense with a good defense if we can ever get some play makers back there at LB/S and not play soft

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Bumping this thread for reality's sake. Trading for a coach doesn't sound so bad now

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I love the idea of Greg Roman or Hue Jackson. Roman has shown that he can maximize his players, and Jackson actually did a pretty decent job as Oakland's head coach before McKenzie decided that he wanted his own guy. He's got Andy Dalton looking like Peyton Manning out there, which is always a plus.

 

Haley just crashed and burned so spectacularly in KC that I'd have a hard time wrapping my head around the idea of hiring him.

 

Edgar Bennett makes sense for a look-see too, but after Philbin's collapse in Miami, I'm a little scared of Packers offensive assistants and wondering if McCarthy is the man behind the curtain up there. If we go defensive again, which I doubt is likely, Winston Moss of the Packers would merit a look.

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I think we need an Innovator for a head coach.  

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

I actually like what I've seen from Dan Cambell so far, interim HC for the Dolphins

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I think Patricia deserves more love

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Any good defensive coaches available? Or good DCs available?

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Three other guys I'd look into are Kirk Ferentz, Brian Kelly and Mike Shula


Ferentz is older, but so was Coughlin and that ended up being a pretty good decision back then. I've always been impressed with how he gets the most out of his teams no matter how much talent he has.Once again, he has his team rolling this year. I think it's an interesting idea.


Kelly because I firmly believe he has the right temperament to be an NFL coach. He is an attention to details guy and will light a fire under his players. I think his style would fit well with this team. They need a leader like Kelly and I think he'd get the most out of these players.


Shula is a familiar face as he's worked with the Jags before. He's been a coordinator for a long time so he has experience and really has done a fantastic job in Carolina this year with a group of largely underwhelming receivers. Plus who knows, maybe hiring Shula's kid would finally lift this "Marino Phins" curse haha 

 

 

Ferentz  and Kelly are pure College football and for different reasons. Despite how popular he is, Ferentz is too committed to Iowa and  I don't think anyone is going to pry him away from the comfort of Iowa college football. He runs a system type offense that works in college and produces above average results and always brings in strong recruiting classes. I don't see a guy like Ferentz adapting tot he complexities of NFL systems and having to draft and develop. Not the worst suggestion but i know he is a very popular option and I'd still like to maybe see him in the NFL.

 

Brian kelly would have similar struggles. He said himself how much he likes the luxury of hand picking his players, and he has big time recruiting power. 

 

Shula is interesting, but is he ready for that jump? Maybe in a few more years... I'm impressed with what he's been able to do with Cam Newton's 10 cent head. If he can get a slacker like Newton to work hard and produce, then he must be doing something right. 

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I actually like what I've seen from Dan Cambell so far, interim HC for the Dolphins

 

what have you seen? What has he done differently than Philbin? You must have intricate knowledge of the difference in play calling, team organization, roster development, evaluation, practice routine, etc. lol

 

Not trying to attack you at all, but I'll throw the cliche of "it's one game against the Titans" and he comes off to me a lot like Harbaugh and Bradley, because he seems like he's another Rah-Rah guy who can motivate a group, but will the heavier aspects of game planning, clock management, half-time adjustments, fundamentals/technique eventually be too much to handle like it is for Bradley? 

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