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Lonnie Pryor Signs with Tampa Bay

#41

Quote:He gets a rookie contract in the amount that's slotted for in the new CBA.
 

The more you know eh?

Quote:Just to be different, Bortles.
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#42

Quote:Google is your friend. Try it before asking silly questions.
 

So post it.  I sure as hell didn't see where one UDFA was 'slotted' over another.  The team can give them whatever signing bonus they wish which is the only part of the contract that is guaranteed.  Never mind the fact that he is no longer a UDFA since he already signed a contract with the Jaguars and is not being drafted again, which is what the slotting system pertains to.


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#43

Quote:If we raise him to the active roster we can cut him the very next week. TB signed him off our PS which means he has stay on the active roster for at least 3 weeks. 3 game checks > 1 game check.

 
 

 

Great point!

Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  
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#44

Quote:You sure do like to reach.

 

"TMD goes to the store"

 

 

"Cashier, I went to the back of the frozen food section I saw that there were no pizzas. It appears that they were all sold out. I presume this means that your suppliers refuse to sell you anymore of their pepperoni pizzas because the management is bad at your store. You will never ever get those pepperoni pizzas back in."

 

"Sir, we just sold out of pizzas. It is just a simple thing that happened. We are about to put out more stock if you can wait a fe..."

 

"NO! You guys are never getting pizzas again. You may think you know what you are about to do but you don't. You guys are out of pizzas and will never get them again."
 

 

Post of the year.  Great stuff.

Respect the game.  Play with a sense of urgency. 


1.)  Take care of the ball.  Win the turnover battle.

2.)  It's all about 3rd down.  Win on 3rd down to win the game.

3.) Playmakers make plays.  The only reason that you put your uniform on is to make plays. In order to EARN your paycheck, you must make plays.  

Learn from the great collapse of 2023.  
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#45

The Jags have MJD starting and appear committed to giving Robinson time behind him, so no chance of playing time there. If Pryor was a better fullback than Willy T., he'd have been starting already. Basically, if he takes the bump to the Jaguars, he's a spare part on special teams, if not a healthy scratch.

 

The Bucs are relying on a guy who couldn't outrun a snail (Leonard) and a guy who had a huge game, but has also been cut by two teams this season (Rainey). They signed a back off of Green Bay's practice squad last week, but who knows if/how he fits into the rotation. If he signs with the Bucs, he's got a decent shot at some playing time in the backfield, as well as special teams work.

 

If I'm Pryor's agent, assuming the Jags aren't offering a chunk more than the Bucs, I'm pointing him to Tampa.


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#46

Quote:Like when people assume he left for more money?
Or when you assume it isn't. 

 

We're all guessing at this point.

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#47

Paraphrased from Bradley:

 

"We were gonna bring him up, but ...  Lonnie was under the belief that he was going to be able to go there and play right away and we couldn't make that promise." 


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#48
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2013, 04:39 PM by The Mad Dog.)

Quote:The Jags have MJD starting and appear committed to giving Robinson time behind him, so no chance of playing time there. If Pryor was a better fullback than Willy T., he'd have been starting already. Basically, if he takes the bump to the Jaguars, he's a spare part on special teams, if not a healthy scratch.

 

The Bucs are relying on a guy who couldn't outrun a snail (Leonard) and a guy who had a huge game, but has also been cut by two teams this season (Rainey). They signed a back off of Green Bay's practice squad last week, but who knows if/how he fits into the rotation. If he signs with the Bucs, he's got a decent shot at some playing time in the backfield, as well as special teams work.

 

If I'm Pryor's agent, assuming the Jags aren't offering a chunk more than the Bucs, I'm pointing him to Tampa.
 

 

I was just about to post something akin to the above....

 

For everyone that bags on Schiano being a bad coach, well, maybe he is.....but he seems to have hired a few good assistant coaches, unlike Bradley....I mean, look at the production Tampa has gotten now from their 2nd and 3rd string RB after they lost Martin for the season. That tells me their RB and maybe OL coaches are pretty good. So, no wonder Pryor chose there instead of here. We have one good assistant coach on the whole staff - Jerry Sullivan the WR coach....and he was a holdover. 


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#49

God, you say some really, really, stupid crap.


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#50
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2013, 04:48 PM by The Eleventh Doctor.)

Quote:I was just about to post something akin to the above....

 

For everyone that bags on Schiano being a bad coach, well, maybe he is.....but he seems to have hired a few good assistant coaches, unlike Bradley....I mean, look at the production Tampa has gotten now from their 2nd and 3rd string RB after they lost Martin for the season. That tells me their RB and maybe OL coaches are pretty good. So, no wonder Pryor chose there instead of here. We have one good assistant coach on the whole staff - Jerry Sullivan the WR coach....and he was a holdover. 
 

You are an Offensive Coordinator.


Gus Bradley is offering you a job to be the OC.


Gus Bradley's Quarterback is Blaine Gabbert or Chad Henne.

 

Do you go and coach for Bradley?


I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#51

Quote:You are an Offensive Coordinator.


Gus Bradley is offering you a job to be the OC.


Gus Bradley's Quarterback is Blaine Gabbert or Chad Henne.

 

Do you go and coach for Bradley?
 

Those QB weren't going to be here long term. 

 

If Bradley was more well respected around the league, maybe he could have hired better assistants. 

 

Tom Coughlin never had a problem in getting quality assistant coaches here. Only the buffoon coaches of JDR, Mularkey did. And now it looks like Bradley also struggled to get good assistants here. (I don't think Bradley is a buffoon, but still failed to get them here, nonetheless) 

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#52

Quote:God, you say some really, really, stupid crap.
 

Yep, sucks that I'm right, huh?

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#53

Quote:The Jags have MJD starting and appear committed to giving Robinson time behind him, so no chance of playing time there. If Pryor was a better fullback than Willy T., he'd have been starting already. Basically, if he takes the bump to the Jaguars, he's a spare part on special teams, if not a healthy scratch.

 

The Bucs are relying on a guy who couldn't outrun a snail (Leonard) and a guy who had a huge game, but has also been cut by two teams this season (Rainey). They signed a back off of Green Bay's practice squad last week, but who knows if/how he fits into the rotation. If he signs with the Bucs, he's got a decent shot at some playing time in the backfield, as well as special teams work.

 

If I'm Pryor's agent, assuming the Jags aren't offering a chunk more than the Bucs, I'm pointing him to Tampa.
 

I was just about to say this.

 

Practical upshot:  the Jags have more depth at RB, and Pryor might actually stick in Tampa.  He's choosing the weaker roster in hopes of getting playing time and sticking around more than just the guaranteed 3 games.

 

Or it could be aliens, player's auras, the excellent restaurants in Tampa, his girlfriend made him do it, or he hates the Jags.  I dunno.

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#54

Quote: 

If Bradley was more well respected around the league,
LOL.   You're hilarious.   I've heard more than a dozen coaches and former coaches say he's going to be a great coach for a long time.  Where are you getting this load of crap? 

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#55

Quote:LOL.   You're hilarious.   I've heard more than a dozen coaches and former coaches say he's going to be a great coach for a long time.  Where are you getting this load of crap? 
 

Talk is cheap. If he were really that well respected, the results would show in better assistants willing to come here. As said, Coughlin never had trouble getting quality assistants here. 

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#56

Quote:Those QB weren't going to be here long term. 

 

If Bradley was more well respected around the league, maybe he could have hired better assistants. 

 

Tom Coughlin never had a problem in getting quality assistant coaches here. Only the buffoon coaches of JDR, Mularkey did. And now it looks like Bradley also struggled to get good assistants here. (I don't think Bradley is a buffoon, but still failed to get them here, nonetheless) 

Long-term or not, that can ruin your career to go to a team with a terrible QB, struggle, then potentially get fired.  "Worst Offense in NFL History" isn't going to look good on anyone's resume.  Not to mention new QB comes in, and takes all the credit for your success.  Whereas if you come in with a new QB, you don't get blamed for the old and get a little credit for the new.

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#57

Quote:Talk is cheap. If he were really that well respected, the results would show in better assistants willing to come here. As said, Coughlin never had trouble getting quality assistants here. 
 

It's hilarious that you think you know anything about the quality of the assistants that are here.  In their first year with a cobbled together roster of rookies, street FAs, and misfits - it had better not be the W/L record you are looking at.  That would be foolish.   How are you judging them? Their resume?  Caldwell and Bradley said they sought out guys that were ready to "move up" and build something together from the ground up. They weren't going for instant turnaround here. 

 

Tell me one  assistant coach who is underperforming based on the roster at his position group?  I'll laugh in your face if you say RB.  Everyone of them is hit in the backfield on 45% of their attempts.  That makes the O-line coach a possibility, but....  Rackley/Brewster/Meester/Bradfield/ regressing Nwaneri??  No, kinda hard to put that on him especially with the employment of a new scheme.  

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#58

Quote:Long-term or not, that can ruin your career to go to a team with a terrible QB, struggle, then potentially get fired.  "Worst Offense in NFL History" isn't going to look good on anyone's resume.  Not to mention new QB comes in, and takes all the credit for your success.  Whereas if you come in with a new QB, you don't get blamed for the old and get a little credit for the new.
 

Well, thats only accounting for the offensive side of the ball. Whats the excuse for the defensive side? And does that mean that once we get Bridgewater, if that happens, then we'll see some better assistants come in here? I'd doubt it....I don't think Bradley's firing any of them. He don't strike me as the scapegoat kinda guy. He'll just keep the same garbage assistants, IMO. 

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#59
(This post was last modified: 11-20-2013, 05:31 PM by The Mad Dog.)

Quote:It's hilarious that you think you know anything about the quality of the assistants that are here.  In their first year with a cobbled together roster of rookies, street FAs, and misfits - it had better not be the W/L record you are looking at.  That would be foolish.   How are you judging them? Their resume?  Caldwell and Bradley said they sought out guys that were ready to "move up" and build something together from the ground up. They weren't going for instant turnaround here. 

 

Tell me one  assistant coach who is underperforming based on the roster at his position group?  I'll laugh in your face if you say RB.  Everyone of them is hit in the backfield on 45% of their attempts.  That makes the O-line coach a possibility, but....  Rackley/Brewster/Meester/Bradfield/ regressing Nwaneri??  No, kinda hard to put that on him especially with the employment of a new scheme.  
 

Nope, thats not the way it works PAL. 

 

You judge the good ones by the production. i,e, You can tell the worth of WR coach Jerry Sullivan because he's developing several WR. Its not just Blackmon, who was expected to be good anyway. He developed 4th rounder in Shorts and also has gotten street guys like Mike Brown, Stephen Burton to also produce when given PT. 

 

JUst like the example I listed in Tampa - you can tell the OL/ or RB coach or both are doing a very good job as they are now down to their 3rd string RB and he's producing huge games. Just like the 2nd string guy was....and Mike James wasn't even a starter in college before you try to fling the "talent" lie out there, trying to give all the credit to the player....

 

Its COACHING. yep, thats right. 


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#60

Quote:Well, thats only accounting for the offensive side of the ball. Whats the excuse for the defensive side? And does that mean that once we get Bridgewater, if that happens, then we'll see some better assistants come in here? I'd doubt it....I don't think Bradley's firing any of them. He don't strike me as the scapegoat kinda guy. He'll just keep the same garbage assistants, IMO. 
 

Bradley just picked a guy he knew for the Defensive side.  It's not important since he's the defensive guy.


I think Bradley doesn't retain Fisch.  I've heard that he's only on a one year contract, but have been unable to find any details.  It's not really scapetgoating to go in a different direction.  Especially when bringing in a new Quarterback.  

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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