It's why Khan is giving him (at least) until the end of this season...

 

Hope the fans can deal with that lol

 

I think we all have learned to deal with that since London week.  But just know that it's gonna take a miracle turn around to convince alot of us that Gus is a legit coach in the next 8 games.

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It's why Khan is giving him (at least) until the end of this season...

 

Hope the fans can deal with that lol

 

We don't really have a choice I suppose. I would have preferred a coaching change in the bye to at least see what Marrone could have done. But alas, a change was not made. It's do or die time for Bradley and his coaching staff. Anything short of a miracle turnaround and Khan will be looking for a new head coach this January.

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I think we all have learned to deal with that since London week.  But just know that it's gonna take a miracle turn around to convince alot of us that Gus is a legit coach in the next 8 games.

miracle turn around?

 

How many wins were you expecting before the season started? More than 8? 

I've said before, anything less than 6 win total and I agree he should be out the door.

6-8 wins he earns another year, imo.

9-10 wins at this point (running the table) would surely make a lot of people change their account names before coming back to the board.

OR some will still spin and say his overall record on 3 years is terrible so he should go.

 

-shrug- I'm cool with waiting and seeing.

I get the feeling a half dozen posters or so still hold out hope Bradley is fired each and every week, win or lose

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6-8 wins means the goes 4-4, 5-3 or 6-2 down the stretch. I think any of those would be classified as a miracle turnaround.

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6-8 wins means the goes 4-4, 5-3 or 6-2 down the stretch. I think any of those would be classified as a miracle turnaround.

Why? The strength of schedule is completely flipped. I don't understand why we can't have reasonable expectations.

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Hey, Jaguar Armageddon was my post.  And I thought the title was well thought out.  Did you even read it?  I mean, seriously?

 

Gabbert (the worst QB in the NFL) won

Mularkey (aregueable the worst coach in the NFL--though I think Bradley is actually the worst) won

a clot team that just fired their OC won

and we lost.

 

It was indeed a low point in Jaguar history...  I think, from a certain point of view, it could be seen as one of the lowest points in our history.  Think about it, we were all talking about winning a beatable game which would have propelled us into actually having a chance at the division.

 

After sunday, we were the only AFCS team to lose that day.  

 

You're in too deep man! You can't see the forest for the trees!  :whistling:

 

If Gabbert winning an ugly game in San Fran makes you unhappy it might be time to take a breather from this whole thing dude...

 

All i'm saying is that when you actually step back and think about our situation as a big picture, it is very positive. And it seems like a whole lot of folks round here need a positive right now! I fully predict that in a few years time we will not look back to these moments as 'one of the lowest points in our history', but actually as the emergence of a core of players that took us back to the top  :teehee:

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BUUUUUUUUT, the close games we lost due to mistakes irked people, and then more people, and then more people. Before you know it, more people jumped on the haterwagon, because people in general are mindless and follow the herd. But realistically, think about it. What did you REALLY expect a 2nd year QB, WR, and rookie RB along with no pass rush because we lost that guy early, and a mish mash of young and older players on the defense to do? Seriously? Think about it for a moment. 

 

 


Regarding the bolded:   :blink:

 

 

Dude, I've read this stupid arguement by morons you think Star Wars: The Phantom Menace was a good movie.

 

The majority of people are upset with the coaching because the coaching sucks.  If you don't see that, fine.  But don't try to negate the majority point of view by saying people that disagree with you are lemmings.

 

Perhaps, you should reconsider your point of view and maybe try and see what the majority are talking about.  And then, try to refute the majority's arguements for why Bradley is a bad coach.  Because I, along with a lot of other posters have provided very valid arguements for our point of view.

 

Where as you are merely laying a personal attack on "haters".  What is a hater anyways?  Is a hater someone that doesn't like something for no reason?  If that's the case, we're not haters.  Blake Bortles has haters.  And I've spend many hours explaining why those haters are wrong.

 

Those posters like yourself call out us Bradley haters, but provide no proof as to why we are wrong to want him fired.

 

I suggest you either try to come up with reasons why Bradley is going to be a good coach, or just learn to deal with the realities.

 

Here are the realities as I see them.  The Phantom Menace was a horrible movie.  Gus Bradley is a terrible head coach.

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Why? The strength of schedule is completely flipped. I don't understand why we can't have reasonable expectations.

 

They lost to Indy, Tampa and Houston already. That is the caliber of teams they are playing the rest of the way.

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You're in too deep man! You can't see the forest for the trees!  :whistling:

 

If Gabbert winning an ugly game in San Fran makes you unhappy it might be time to take a breather from this whole thing dude...

 

All i'm saying is that when you actually step back and think about our situation as a big picture, it is very positive. And it seems like a whole lot of folks round here need a positive right now! I fully predict that in a few years time we will not look back to these moments as 'one of the lowest points in our history', but actually as the emergence of a core of players that took us back to the top  :teehee:

 

Gabbert winning and Mularkey winning while we lose is clearly and indictment of the team this past Sunday.  

 

I've spent plenty of time defending our players.  We have a good solid core of players that will make us contenders.  But to ignore reality of why we're losing is sad and pathetic.  I prefer to live in reality.  I mean, it's cool to ignore what is happening.  You seem to want everyone to think the way you do.

 

That's fine.  

 

I choose to only think partially the way you do.  I agree that the team has talent.

 

However, the team having talent does not mean I have to ignore the fact that the team has no leadership.

 

See, I can do both.  I can cheer on the good.  And I can criticize the bad.  It's hard for some people to do.  So, I don't blame you.  But just know you are ignoring part of the truth.  

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They lost to Indy, Tampa and Houston already. That is the caliber of teams they are playing the rest of the way.

For good reasons. Indy is game we lost because we couldn't kick a field goal (twice). Tampa is a W if we have Poz playing.


Houston is a disappointing loss.

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Why? The strength of schedule is completely flipped. I don't understand why we can't have reasonable expectations.

 

We can't look at SoS any longer.  The team has proven that it doesn't matter.  

 

Every one of our upcoming opponents see the Jags as a win; why wouldn't they?

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For good reasons. Indy is game we lost because we couldn't kick a field goal (twice). Tampa is a W if we have Poz playing.


Houston is a disappointing loss.

 

I agree. That's what makes it so disappointing to only be 2-6. And why it's hard to expect wins down the stretch. Like Marks said "They're handing us the division". The team is just struggling to take advantage of it.

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Bortles will never be anything but a loser as long as he's playing for Gus. Stats mean nothing.... Win some games please.

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I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.

miracle turn around?

 

How many wins were you expecting before the season started? More than 8? 

I've said before, anything less than 6 win total and I agree he should be out the door.

6-8 wins he earns another year, imo.

9-10 wins at this point (running the table) would surely make a lot of people change their account names before coming back to the board.

OR some will still spin and say his overall record on 3 years is terrible so he should go.

 

-shrug- I'm cool with waiting and seeing.

I get the feeling a half dozen posters or so still hold out hope Bradley is fired each and every week, win or lose

 

I was hoping for 7 to 8 wins.  And then as I saw the AFCS explode around us, I became more confident that 8 wins was very doable...

 

Dude, as realities change, expectations should change with it.

 

Even for those who thought only 6 wins were possible, when the AFCS became a complete joke from the clots on down, EVERYONE's expectations should have shifted to winning the AFCS.

 

I mean, seriously.  You don't see this 2-6 record as a complete indictment of terrible coaching?  There are 3 games (if you ignore the jets game) that we should have won but didn't that would have us leading this division.  

 

I''m sorry, but if we don't win the AFCS, it's proof that Gus Bradley will never take us far.  He's in the most stable position of any HC in the division with the most stable offense in the division and a defense, that if let lose to blitz more often could help out.

 

Instead, he's benching players for no reason, then letting them play after 1 game.  He's still not able to properly handle time outs.  He clearly doesn't have this team practicing properly to reduce penalties and have the properly prepared for certain game situations.  It's not looking good for him.

 

But hey, if he manages us to win the AFCS, I will say, yes he did a good job turning this around.  But that's the benchmark.  In this terrible division, we have the players and talent to have been leading this division for a few weeks.  Instead, we've been losing games we should have been winning. 

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Gabbert winning and Mularkey winning while we lose is clearly and indictment of the team this past Sunday.  

 

How does it have anything to do with our current team?!

 

See, I can do both.  I can cheer on the good.  And I can criticize the bad.  It's hard for some people to do.  So, I don't blame you.  But just know you are ignoring part of the truth.  

 

:thanks: FYI I am objectively analytical of this team, both the positives and the negatives. I realize there are many weaknesses on this roster. Also, I am not a supporter of Gus, and if things don't improve over the second half of the season I am absolutely for him getting fired. 

 

At the same time I, and most others, predicted that this team would be in a situation like they are in. A young team that is showing their talent but has not got into a routine of winning yet. We are close. I fully recognize that this team is in a more exciting position right now than it has been for a long long time.

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For good reasons. Indy is game we lost because we couldn't kick a field goal (twice). Tampa is a W if we have Poz playing.


Houston is a disappointing loss.

 

The above excuses are not "good reasons", not in my opinion.  These sound like cop outs for bad coaching to me.  The defense imploded at key points in all 3 of these games.  And the specials teams imploded in at least one of these games.  To me, these issues come from the top and are the reasons we only have 2 wins when we should have at least 5...  

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For good reasons. Indy is game we lost because we couldn't kick a field goal (twice). Tampa is a W if we have Poz playing.


Houston is a disappointing loss.

Ah the good ol injury excuse.....

 

TB was missing their 2 best Olinemen... and yet we couldn't generate turnovers?

 

Houston, TB, Indy and NY were all very winnable games and yet we couldn't beat them. I don't see how anyone could assume we are going to finish the season strong. Could it happen? Yes. But it's far more likely the same problems will persist.

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How does it have anything to do with our current team?!

 

 

:thanks: FYI I am objectively analytical of this team, both the positives and the negatives. I realize there are many weaknesses on this roster. Also, I am not a supporter of Gus, and if things don't improve over the second half of the season I am absolutely for him getting fired. 

 

At the same time I, and most others, predicted that this team would be in a situation like they are in. A young team that is showing their talent but has not got into a routine of winning yet. We are close. I fully recognize that this team is in a more exciting position right now than it has been for a long long time.

 

1...Uh, you were calling out my thread about a low point in Jaguars history.  See, I knew you didn't read my thread.  If you didn't read it, then don't talk about it.  Sheesh...

 

2...  I am with you on these points.  The offense is fun to watch and will only get better over the next few years.  The D even has some players that can be the foundation of a solid group once we acquire a few more pieces.  

 

I guess that's all.  I'll leave you be...  No reason to go any further on the coaching issues.  I might have taken the whole Jaguar Armageddon thing a bit to personally.  It wasn't me being overtly negative.  To me, losing while 2 of the worst Jaguars EVER having wins the same week stung.  I thought it was appropriate to reflect on that when I posted it.  

 

If you would have read what I wrote, you would also remember that we were all laughing at how terrible the AFCS was that week before the games.  Marks was even quoted as saying the other teams were practically giving us the division.  It was a great few days to be a Jaguar fan.  Then Sunday rolled around and we were the only team to lose.  I mean, any true jaguar fan that can sit here and say they weren't disappointed by the outcome of last Sunday is lying to me and to themselves, or has become so apathetic that they are not really paying attention anymore.

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Ah the good ol injury excuse.....

 

TB was missing their 2 best Olinemen... and yet we couldn't generate turnovers?

 

Houston, TB, Indy and NY were all very winnable games and yet we couldn't beat them. I don't see how anyone could assume we are going to finish the season strong. Could it happen? Yes. But it's far more likely the same problems will persist.

 

Very good points.

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Where as you are merely laying a personal attack on "haters".  What is a hater anyways?  Is a hater someone that doesn't like something for no reason?  If that's the case, we're not haters.  Blake Bortles has haters.  And I've spend many hours explaining why those haters are wrong.

 

 

First of all, I completely agree that Bortles is a good QB, and those that continue to pan him are wrong, in my opinion. We agree on this.

 

But your logic is so terrible here. You explain that you are not just hating on Bradley for no reason, thus you are not simply a hater. Correct. But the people who argue that Bortles isn't a good QB also have their reasons for thinking that way, but apparently they are 'haters'. Don't get me wrong, I think that Baconator chap talks a whole lot of nonsense, but in his mind he definitely has reasons for his opinion! 

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