Sounds like Gus gets this year and next because guy paying bills and signing checks is bought in and is going to let it play out.

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Sounds like Gus gets this year and next because guy paying bills and signing checks is bought in and is going to let it play out.

The more articles I read like this make me think he just might be here next year. If they can continue to improve and get some more wins on this weak remaining schedule then it's likely he could be back. Which, if that's the case and they can compete next year with a better record against better competition then a lot of us would have been wrong about Gus. I just hope it plays out the way they keep telling us.

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"It's not about wins and losses all the time," veteran tight end Marcedes Lewis said.

 

 

obviously

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"It's not about wins and losses all the time," veteran tight end Marcedes Lewis said.

 

It is eventually just probably not this year or next.

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The more articles I read like this make me think he just might be here next year. If they can continue to improve and get some more wins on this weak remaining schedule then it's likely he could be back. Which, if that's the case and they can compete next year with a better record against better competition then a lot of us would have been wrong about Gus. I just hope it plays out the way they keep telling us.

That means no more fire Gus or new head coach candidate posts for the next couple of years.

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"It's not about wins and losses all the time," veteran tight end Marcedes Lewis said.

 

It is eventually just probably not this year or next.

nah.. next year is definitely about some wins...

 

like, preseason division champion aspirations.

 

No reason not, to to be real.

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Sounds like Gus gets this year and next because guy paying bills and signing checks is bought in and is going to let it play out.

 

 

The more articles I read like this make me think he just might be here next year. If they can continue to improve and get some more wins on this weak remaining schedule then it's likely he could be back. Which, if that's the case and they can compete next year with a better record against better competition then a lot of us would have been wrong about Gus. I just hope it plays out the way they keep telling us.

But if he even gets close to winning the AFCS this year (7-8 wins) he has actually earned it.

 

We can't say we lost because of coaching and won in spite of it.....

though many will

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nah.. next year is definitely about some wins...

 

like, preseason division champion aspirations.

 

No reason not, to to be real.

 Should keep improving  but IMO max win total 9 next year but no playoffs. If that happens I see shad giving Gus another year after next. 

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 Should keep improving  but IMO max win total 9 next year but no playoffs. If that happens I see shad giving Gus another year after next. 

well... 9 wins is fine by me.

That's being about them wins...

 

"Its not about the wins" when you only get 3 because you're trying to build a real roster from scratch.

"Its not about the wins" in year 3 when "it's built" but still young and improving.

Year 4, it might not be about the playoffs, but it's about the wins... 

and aspirations (the team, and Gus, should speak openly about trying to win the division and make the playoffs)

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obviously

Maybe that was poorly worded on his part, but he's right to the extent that the player's focus needs to be on their own roles and responsibilities.  If they execute as they should, and they are effective in doing so, the wins will come.  Their focus needs to be on what they're doing, not the end result.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

But if he even gets close to winning the AFCS this year (7-8 wins) he has actually earned it.

 

We can't say we lost because of coaching and won in spite of it.....

though many will

There are always those who will blame coaching for losses, and give credit to everyone else in wins.  The bottom line is that if the team gets on a bit of a run from here on out, and they get to 7 or 8 wins, nothing is going to happen with the coaching staff, IMO.  It would take an epic collapse down the stretch for them to consider firing Gus.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

There are always those who will blame coaching for losses, and give credit to everyone else in wins.  The bottom line is that if the team gets on a bit of a run from here on out, and they get to 7 or 8 wins, nothing is going to happen with the coaching staff, IMO.  It would take an epic collapse down the stretch for them to consider firing Gus.

And it shouldn't change. 8 wins means that what Gus and crew are doing works.

 

However early in the season, it didn't always look like that. He needs to take care of business against these bottom feeding teams. If he doesn't, he should be gone.

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And it shouldn't change. 8 wins means that what Gus and crew are doing works.

 

However early in the season, it didn't always look like that. He needs to take care of business against these bottom feeding teams. If he doesn't, he should be gone.

You're still dealing with a young team that has encountered a lot of injuries, and is running a brand new offensive system.  There were bound to be pain points.  The improvement is there, and the team is much more competitive in games this year than last.  Others are taking notice of this based on the fact that the team is actually favored this week.  The real test for Gus is winning a game you're supposed to win, and doing it under the national spotlight of a prime time game.  He can make significant strides in his own situation by winning the game tonight.  Tennessee is a bad team. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

The more articles I read like this make me think he just might be here next year. If they can continue to improve and get some more wins on this weak remaining schedule then it's likely he could be back. Which, if that's the case and they can compete next year with a better record against better competition then a lot of us would have been wrong about Gus. I just hope it plays out the way they keep telling us.

I hope it plays out this way, too.

 

I would hate to think we stuck with Gus another year, only to realize/confirm he isn't the guy, and we let quality coaching candidates like Sean Payton, Marrone, etc., get away.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Interesting read. I remember when this whole 'gut and rebuild' idea (along with the notion of rebuilding primarily via the draft) came forth that it was obvious that it would probably require at least several years before we would start to see the fruits of it. The few wins we have this season at this point however aren't really an indicator of having 'turned the corner' just yet I think. We're glad for the wins, but face it; they were against teams who are/were down on their luck at the time... and we only just won. I happen to be an advocate of the 'you are what your record says you are' mind set; a coach with a lot more 'football smarts' and experience than I or anyone I know personally said that. What Parcell said not withstanding, I do think that there is more to consider when evaluating a teams growth than just the season record, (albeit the record is without doubt the 'heavy hitter' in this matter).

 

When I look at the Jags now, I see a team that has some overachieving players (the Allens, Bortles, Poz, T. Smith, for example) with a sprinkling of other players who are holding the team back at this point from achieving more sooner (M. Lewis, Joeckel, Beadles, Gerhart, Branch, Alualu, for example). I see this team as being only a few players away from achieving genuine legitimacy as perennial play off contenders! As I recall, that was the long term goal, and as it so happens, we appear to be much closer to it much sooner than anticipated.

 

Having said all this, I have to give the lions share of the credit for us being this close this soon to Dave Caldwell. In the final analysis, this is his plan. I see the only value Gus Bradley has as a guy who is/was able to keep the players from getting absolutely discouraged and 'abandoning ship' through this process (aka-a cheerleader)... but that's a different topic for elsewhere.

 

The Jags 'culture' is what it is... the only way it's going to 'survive' is by tangible proof of growth... winning football. Until then, the 'culture' is just a 'feel good' place for football players to play a kid's game... and get paid millions for it.  

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Next year should be about wins and losses.  Last year was all about getting the rookies acquainted, this year was about progression, next year should be about winning.  at least thats my opinion

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Next year should be about wins and losses.  Last year was all about getting the rookies acquainted, this year was about progression, next year should be about winning.  at least thats my opinion

I completely agree.

 

Inexperience should not be a factor any longer next year.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Interesting read. I remember when this whole 'gut and rebuild' idea (along with the notion of rebuilding primarily via the draft) came forth that it was obvious that it would probably require at least several years before we would start to see the fruits of it. The few wins we have this season at this point however aren't really an indicator of having 'turned the corner' just yet I think. We're glad for the wins, but face it; they were against teams who are/were down on their luck at the time... and we only just won. I happen to be an advocate of the 'you are what your record says you are' mind set; a coach with a lot more 'football smarts' and experience than I or anyone I know personally said that. What Parcell said not withstanding, I do think that there is more to consider when evaluating a teams growth than just the season record, (albeit the record is without doubt the 'heavy hitter' in this matter).

 

When I look at the Jags now, I see a team that has some overachieving players (the Allens, Bortles, Poz, T. Smith, for example) with a sprinkling of other players who are holding the team back at this point from achieving more sooner (M. Lewis, Joeckel, Beadles, Gerhart, Branch, Alualu, for example). I see this team as being only a few players away from achieving genuine legitimacy as perennial play off contenders! As I recall, that was the long term goal, and as it so happens, we appear to be much closer to it much sooner than anticipated.

 

Having said all this, I have to give the lions share of the credit for us being this close this soon to Dave Caldwell. In the final analysis, this is his plan. I see the only value Gus Bradley has as a guy who is/was able to keep the players from getting absolutely discouraged and 'abandoning ship' through this process (aka-a cheerleader)... but that's a different topic for elsewhere.


 

The Jags 'culture' is what it is... the only way it's going to 'survive' is by tangible proof of growth... winning football. Until then, the 'culture' is just a 'feel good' place for football players to play a kid's game... and get paid millions for it.  

Manure


 

:yucky:
 


 

I hate manure....

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If the rest of the division (and AFC) is as bad in 2016 as they are this year, 9 wins = playoffs

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"I fully believe in it. I think there is a learning curve with it for how to work within the culture and still kind of maintain that edge and still maintain what you need to be a good football team and a good football player."


Found this quote by Beadles the most interesting part of the article.

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