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Is Roberto Aguayo coming out early?

#1

And if so, the question is how high do you take him?  Obviously our kicking game has absolutely cost us one game this year.  And you could argue today may have ended up differently had we not been chasing points all game long.  Lets say a better kicking game wins us one more game a year.  Is a 3rd round draft pick worth one extra win for the next 10 years?  Aguayo may not even last that long... so would a 2nd rounder be worth it?

 

or are kickers just not worth any draft pick before the 4th or 5th round and you'll always be able to find one or two solid one's later in the draft?




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#2

He is a RS Junior so I think he will come out, however, his younger brother will be playing for FSU next year so I can see him sticking around for another year.


I wouldn't draft a kicker earlier than the 4th. Keep an eye on Ka'imi Fairbairn as well.
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#3

We drafted Bryan Anger in the third round.

 

Russell Wilson went five picks later.

 

That should be all the guidance anyone needs about drafting specialists early. Unless the guy offers depth at other positions, I would not draft a kicker--any kicker--before the sixth round. There are too many late-round/undrafted guys out there who do well enough to reliably hold down a job to waste a mid-rounder or higher on someone whose only value to the team is hitting the ball with their foot a few times a game.


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I was just wondering this as well. After the latest Myers debacle I'm all for it at the right time. 4th or later. He won't be there though
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#5

He's a second rounder easily
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Quote:He's a second rounder easily


Uhhhhhhh....no...?
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#7

Quote:He's a second rounder easily
 

Thanks Gene.

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#8

Someone will take him in the second. They shouldn't, but they will.
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#9

The highest he's going to be picked is mid fourth
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Quote:The highest he's going to be picked is mid fourth


I'd take him there. Package Scobee's 6th and a 5th for him. Worth it if he solidifies the job for 10 years
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#11

Quote:The highest he's going to be picked is mid fourth
 

The value "may" go up to a mid to late 3rd round pick now that the extra point is no longer an automatic point anymore.

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(This post was last modified: 12-07-2015, 05:19 PM by haveaseat.)

Quote:Uhhhhhhh....no...?
 

It's very well possible. His stock is high already and the season is still going on. It's only going up from here and with the pressure being put on with kickers, someone will jump at Roberto to have an "automatic" guy for the next 15 years.


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Quote:It's very well possible. His stock is high already and the season is still going on. It's only going up from here and with the pressure being put on with kickers, someone will jump at Roberto to have an "automatic" guy for the next 15 years.
Please, try and convince me that Sebastian Janikowski (80% career on FGs...you can do better with a UDFA) and Mike Nugent (journeyman, 81%, better UDFAs out there) were worth their draft slots. Here are a few guys who went after each in their respective rounds:

 

Janikowski: Chad Pennington, Shaun Alexander, Stockar McDougle, Anthony Becht, Keith Bulluck

 

Nugent: Nick Collins, Roscoe Parrish, Jonathan Babineaux, some dude named Vincent Jackson

 

So, basically, that's a first-round pick and a second-round pick on guys whose career FG% is actually mid-pack on the all-time accuracy list. Meanwhile, the most accurate kicker in NFL history--Dan Bailey--was an undrafted free agent.

 

Seriously, just try and make a convincing case that a GM should ever, ever draft a kicker in rounds one or two, even three or four, when there is virtually always a better player in post-draft free agency, or at the very least a stopgap veteran you can sign on the cheap who'll get you 80%.

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Quote:It's very well possible. His stock is high already and the season is still going on. It's only going up from here and with the pressure being put on with kickers, someone will jump at Roberto to have an "automatic" guy for the next 15 years.
 

The problem is there is no guarantee someone is going to be automatic  Caleb Sturgis had very comparable stats at FL and he's already on his 2nd NFL team.

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#15

Both my teams need kickers, bad. If Myers could fix his extra points, he may be ok. He's so shaky. The guy has a huge leg though.


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#16

Quote:Both my teams need kickers, bad. If Myers could fix his extra points, he may be ok. He's so shaky. The guy has a huge leg though.
Seen his kickoffs lately?

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#17

Quote:The value "may" go up to a mid to late 3rd round pick now that the extra point is no longer an automatic point anymore.


I just don't see it happening,almost all the good teams have solid kickers apart from maybe the Bengals. Perhaps someone uses a compensatory pick on him but other than that he's going 4th round at best.
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#18

Aguayo can kick a pigskin a quarter mile. How much you wanna make a bet he can kick a football over them mountains?
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#19

Quote:Aguayo can kick a pigskin a quarter mile. How much you wanna make a bet he can kick a football over them mountains?
24-of-38 could probably kick a football over them mountains, if that's our standard for comparison...

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#20

I would never draft a ST specialist in the top 100 picks. Ever. If Stephen Gostkowski can be had at pick 118, that's as high as I go. And he's probably the only reason I'd even consider one that high.


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