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Cornerback (Hargreaves specifically) most likely pick?
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Quote:He's Otto not Leo. He probably should be. He's basically an upgraded Ryan Davis. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Its funny how people just look at his sack number and think he wasnt that good of a pass rusher. Everytime he rushed the passer it seemed like he was almost always in the backfield.
Watch the games, Fowler was always putting pressure on the qb if he didnt get the sack and flew all over the field. He was the best pass rusher to come out last year and better than any of the pass rushers in this draft IMO. Lots of people on here always just look at his sack number. He also didnt rush the passer on every play why his sack number isnt higher than it was. The guy was a disrubtive force that teams had to scheme for
Was Mayock and Jeremiah just making stuff up saying he was the best edge rusher in the draft last year? They actually watched tape and seen what most people knew except some on this board. I dont think they are just Gator homers either
Quote:He's Otto not Leo. I wish we would stop talking about LEO's and OTTO's and all the rest of it. Whatever difference our defensive schemes looks like compared to other's is basically imperceptible. They dont line our "LEOs" that far off the line. They dont have our "LEO" do anything special. It's just a pass rusher. plain and simple. Find the most athletic guy possible who can rush the passer. There is nothing unique or innovative at all about that. ________________________________________________ Scouting well is all that matters. Draft philosophy is all fluff.
Quote:Its funny how people just look at his sack number and think he wasn't that good of a pass rusher. Every time he rushed the passer it seemed like he was almost always in the backfield. Not funny, just very stupid. Anyone who watches football should know statistics are very misleading and often meaningless. That includes the sack number. Dante Fowler's job description goes way beyond sacks and TFLs. It includes stuff you can't see on stat sheets. In addition, Fowler moved around at UF, playing both OLB and DE. So of course he was not supposed to meet the quarterback on every play. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
Quote:Its funny how people just look at his sack number and think he wasnt that good of a pass rusher. Everytime he rushed the passer it seemed like he was almost always in the backfield. Disregarding sacks and TFLs, there's quite a few guys in this class that put up just as many or better numbers than Fowler(the Georgia duo and Calhoun absolutely destroy them). Even in his own class, guys like Preston Smith and Trey Flowers equaled or surpassed his QB hurries/PBU numbers. Quote:Disregarding sacks and TFLs, there's quite a few guys in this class that put up just as many or better numbers than Fowler(the Georgia duo and Calhoun absolutely destroy them). Even in his own class, guys like Preston Smith and Trey Flowers equaled or surpassed his QB hurries/PBU numbers.Disregarding sacks and TFL's is like disregarding TD's and YAC for a WR. Fowler was the best edge rusher coming out of last years draft, he's a freak athlete and is very fast for his size. Not only did he pressure the QB all game, but he was very good at stopping the run as well.
Read the post I quoted to understand why I said what I said. He's the one talking people only looking at sacks/TFLs. I only obliged him and pointed out some prospects that equaled or did better than Fowler in this class.
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Quote:Read the post I quoted to understand why I said what I said. He's the one talking people only looking at sacks/TFLs. I only obliged him and pointed out some prospects that equaled or did better than Fowler in this class.watch the games bro not the stat sheet. Some of the all time college stat leaders didnt fair well in the NFL Quote:I wish we would stop talking about LEO's and OTTO's and all the rest of it. Whatever difference our defensive schemes looks like compared to other's is basically imperceptible. They dont line our "LEOs" that far off the line. They dont have our "LEO" do anything special. It's just a pass rusher. plain and simple. Find the most athletic guy possible who can rush the passer. There is nothing unique or innovative at all about that. Meh. I mean, I get your frustration because I think it's a bit silly to use these terms but what else are you going to call them? LEO is a Weak Side Defensive End whose primary job is to rush the passer, that can get awfully wordy writing it out.
I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.
Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!
Quote:watch the games bro not the stat sheet. Some of the all time college stat leaders didnt fair well in the NFL I have watched the games and shockingly enough, I'm not spouting empty rhetoric like "Fowler is better than anyone in this entire class" or vague assertions like what you just did there.
Quote:lol, he is a football player So we can just line him up at Free Safety then? Maybe flip him to TE for a few series in the red zone to replace the Yugo? Playing a guy out of position is foolish, and Fowler looks more like an LB than a DE. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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Quote:So we can just line him up at Free Safety then? Maybe flip him to TE for a few series in the red zone to replace the Yugo? Playing a guy out of position is foolish, and Fowler looks more like an LB than a DE.frotto, potto, leo, otto. You can call him what ever you want. You can move the guy around anywhere on the front 7. Use can him in blitz packages or drop him into coverage. He can play more than 1 position
Quote:frotto, potto, leo, otto. You can call him what ever you want. You can move the guy around anywhere on the front 7. Use can him in blitz packages or drop him into coverage. He can play more than 1 position That's the point. Fowler isn't an every down pass rusher which is what this team needs. He's a utility guy who will hopefully be good at a bunch of things, we still need a true defensive end who wins against the tackle. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
Quote:That's the point. Fowler isn't an every down pass rusher which is what this team needs. He's a utility guy who will hopefully be good at a bunch of things, we still need a true defensive end who wins against the tackle.Fowler will rush the passer more than he will do anything else and be good at it. He will need some help comming off the othe edge though as you can never have enough pass rushers. The reason he will be moved around is to exploit miss matches. Im hoping we get another vet like Curry, Halli, or Ivin to come off the other edge. Could also see us taking a pass rusher in the 2nd if the value is there. |
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