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Why WOULDN'T Mario Williams want to be a Jaguar?

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(This post was last modified: 01-05-2016, 06:06 PM by Kotite.)

Known..


Gonna get paid. (again)


Won't be paying N.Y. taxes on it.


Get to play the team that drafted you #1 overall twice a year.


Live by the beach.


Play with a very young offense playing at a high level.


Play in a scheme that will play to your (his) strengths.


..he's also got to know we're pushing "all in" this offseason to add to this defense with free agency and the draft.


This is all assuming he is someone Caldwell is targeting. And he likes or buys into Gus, his system and the new DC to be named.
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I think the bigger question is why would we want a player that has clearly quit on his team. 


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#3

Quote:Known..


Gonna get paid. (again)


Won't be paying N.Y. taxes on it.


Get to play the team that drafted you #1 overall twice a year.


Live by the beach.


Play with a very young offense playing at a high level.


Play in a scheme that will play to your (his) strengths.


..he's also got to know we're pushing "all in" this offseason to add to this defense with free agency and the draft.


This is all assuming he is someone Caldwell is targeting. And he likes or buys into Gus, his system and the new DC to be named.


The no tax is not entirely true. You do pay taxes on game day checks on the road if that state has taxes. Tennessee is 2500 flat rate.
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#4

Just another reason to not be a tack. Still.. half the season with Florida taxes.
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#5

Quote:I think the bigger question is why would we want a player that has clearly quit on his team.


Didn't half our team quit on Sunday?
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Bill Walsh was great at knowing when to let FAs walk. He believed in paying for future, not past, performance. Time and time again he'd let the biggest name free agents walk only to see them go on to be mere shadows of who they were under him. My fear with Mario is that his time has come. I'd love to have the guy from two years ago, but is that who we'd be getting?



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(This post was last modified: 01-05-2016, 08:58 PM by Kotite.)

I don't know the chemistry of the locker room or that organization with what has gone down there the past few years, but I know before this year and this scheme he put up baller stats. If he quit anybody or anything, I'm guessing it's his coach.
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#8

At his age I would think he would want to go to a contender. Not sure who that would be though.



What am I saying? He's definitely going for the money.
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#9

I could think of 36 reasons...


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#10

If he's lactose intolerant it would never work.


“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#11

Quote:I could think of 36 reasons...


But you can't name one?
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#12

Quote:But you can't name one?
hint :

 

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/co...radGu0.htm

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#13

I already mentioned that he would need to be bought into the Gus, the system and the new DC. So you're of the opinion he wouldn't be. You're allowed to just say that you know.
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Quote:Known..


Gonna get paid. (again)


Won't be paying N.Y. taxes on it.


Get to play the team that drafted you #1 overall twice a year.


Live by the beach.


Play with a very young offense playing at a high level.


Play in a scheme that will play to your (his) strengths.


..he's also got to know we're pushing "all in" this offseason to add to this defense with free agency and the draft.


This is all assuming he is someone Caldwell is targeting. And he likes or buys into Gus, his system and the new DC to be named.
IIRC, this is the first time he's played on a team with a legitimate QB prospect.  Maybe that will help tip things in our favor.

 

Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!





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#15

Quote:I think the bigger question is why would we want a player that has clearly quit on his team. 
I don't know if that is fair to say.

 

Yes, there were anonymous sources on the Bills that allege he quit.

 

But the guys actually willing to put their name on record in association with Williams' effort are LB Preston Brown and CB Leodis McKelvin, and they defended Williams.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foot...o-williams

 

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Quote:Bill Walsh was great at knowing when to let FAs walk. He believed in paying for future, not past, performance. Time and time again he'd let the biggest name free agents walk only to see them go on to be mere shadows of who they were under him. My fear with Mario is that his time has come. I'd love to have the guy from two years ago, but is that who we'd be getting?
But Bill Walsh also didn't shy away from acquiring older vets he thought could help.

 

During his tenure with the 49ers, he acquired DE Fred Dean (29 the year he acquired him in 1981), LB Hacksaw Reynolds (34 when acquired in 1981), DL Manu Tuiasosopo (27 when acquired in 1984), RB Wendell Tyler (28 in 1983), TE Russ Francis (29 when acquired in 1982), and WR Wes Chandler (32 in 1988).

 

I DO understand the concern.  As a general rule, I would avoid the older vets.  But you can make the argument that the defense is in need of a talent and experience infusion.  The right mix could catapult this team into a winning record.

 

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Quote:But Bill Walsh also didn't shy away from acquiring older vets he thought could help.

 

During his tenure with the 49ers, he acquired DE Fred Dean (29 the year he acquired him in 1981), LB Hacksaw Reynolds (34 when acquired in 1981), DL Manu Tuiasosopo (27 when acquired in 1984), RB Wendell Tyler (28 in 1983), TE Russ Francis (29 when acquired in 1982), and WR Wes Chandler (32 in 1988).

 

I DO understand the concern.  As a general rule, I would avoid the older vets.  But you can make the argument that the defense is in need of a talent and experience infusion.  The right mix could catapult this team into a winning record.
 

The NFL needs a guy named Hacksaw.

“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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Quote:The NFL needs a guy named Hacksaw.
Yeah.  It seems like the nicknames were better back then.  "Night train"  "The Mad Stork."  "Mad Dog"  "The Assassin"  "Snake" "Mean Joe" Broadway Joe."  Even the defenses:  "Doomsday," "Steel Curtain," "Purple People Eaters," "Fearsome Foursome." (But I gotta say as modern nicknames go, the "Legion of Boom" would fit right in with those others).

 

 

 

As for Reynolds, he was a great player with a great nickname-though as a kid I hated him because of the teams he played for.

 

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