No way in hell Ramsey is the third overall best prospect.

 

Dangit! Missed it!

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

I'm not usually a stats guy. But 3 INTs and 4 forced fumbles over 3 years is a bit concerning if we're drafting a guy at 5 to be a centerfielder

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I'm not usually a stats guy. But 3 INTs and 4 forced fumbles over 3 years is a bit concerning if we're drafting a guy at 3 to be a centerfielder

We pick at 5 but I agree

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We pick at 5 but I agree

I was still stuck on the 3 INTs I guess.

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Ed Reed had 21 INTs at Miami

Reggie Nelson had 7 in 2 years at UF

Jalen Ramsey had 3 in 3 years at FSU

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I personally don't see the truly elite talent at the top of this draft, as I have in previous years.  I feel that the guys we are likely going to see available at pick 5, were similar in quality to guys in the 10-15 range in other drafts. 

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Ed Reed had 21 INTs at Miami

Reggie Nelson had 7 in 2 years at UF

Jalen Ramsey had 3 in 3 years at FSU

Karl Joseph had 5 in 4 games this year at WV and looks like a Bob Sanders clone.  If he runs a good 40 get this guy

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Ed Reed had 21 INTs at Miami

Reggie Nelson had 7 in 2 years at UF

Jalen Ramsey had 3 in 3 years at FSU

Tanner McEvoy had 6 last year at Wisconsin after playing primarily QB the previous years.

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I'm not usually a stats guy. But 3 INTs and 4 forced fumbles over 3 years is a bit concerning if we're drafting a guy at 5 to be a centerfielder

This is what I'm saying! I want to think Ramsey is this sure fire FS that we need, but where are the plays?!


Karl Joseph had 3 picks in one game...

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I personally don't see the truly elite talent at the top of this draft, as I have in previous years. I feel that the guys we are likely going to see available at pick 5, were similar in quality to guys in the 10-15 range in other drafts.

Yep. This is why I'm all in for Noah Spence. I just absolutely love the potential he and Fowler would have. Game changing, team changing potential.

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While we're on the INT thing:


Thompson had 19 picks at Boise State.


Could be there in the second...

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All I see is Ramsey Ramsey Ramsey Ramsey, but nobody has backed it up yet as to why? Is it because he is projected high so people just assume he's the pick? Is it because he has a cool name (TMD school of drafting). Is it because FSU?


He stands out athletically, he has fire to his game, he has measurables you want to see, but the lack of production and game tape is really concerning to me for drafting him at 5. Someone convince me he's the guy, please, because we do need a FS almost as bad as we need DLine.

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Considering all the hype surrounding Ramsey and everyone mocking him to us those numbers are indeed a concern.

 

Karl Joseph was really an intriguing prospect at the safety position for what I saw.

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Considering all the hype surrounding Ramsey and everyone mocking him to us those numbers are indeed a concern.


Karl Joseph was really an intriguing prospect at the safety position for what I saw.

Literally looks like the Earl Thomas of college football.


Ramsey has a high ceiling, though. If he produces like some think he will, he could be like an Eric Berry clone.


But our defense needs a Thomas more than a Berry.

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Literally looks like the Earl Thomas of college football.


Ramsey has a high ceiling, though. If he produces like some think he will, he could be like an Eric Berry clone.


But our defense needs a Thomas more than a Berry.

I agree, I loved everything I saw from Joseph so far. (and damn he hits hard)Is he projected to go first round or any chance he slips to the second?

 

Ramsey seems like a great athlete, but I don't know...drafting a guy at 5 who hasn't even played the position consistently seems a bit of a bet to me. I'd rather draft a Jack or Spence (and was big on Jaylon Smith before the injury).

Surely Ramsey has a high ceiling given his qualities like you said.

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I agree, I loved everything I saw from Joseph so far. (and damn he hits hard)Is he projected to go first round or any chance he slips to the second?


Ramsey seems like a great athlete, but I don't know...drafting a guy at 5 who hasn't even played the position consistently seems a bit of a bet to me. I'd rather draft a Jack or Spence (and was big on Jaylon Smith before the injury).

Surely Ramsey has a high ceiling given his qualities like you said.

Joseph is projected all over the place, but I think when it's all said and done, he will go in the second round. I'm absolutely praying for a Spence/Jack round 1, Joseph round 2 draft.

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Joseph is projected all over the place, but I think when it's all said and done, he will go in the second round. I'm absolutely praying for a Spence/Jack round 1, Joseph round 2 draft.

 

I would be really happy to see things turning out that way as well!

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Joseph is projected all over the place, but I think when it's all said and done, he will go in the second round. I'm absolutely praying for a Spence/Jack round 1, Joseph round 2 draft.

 

I know Joseph played FS in 2012 and 2013 - but didn't he play SS in  2014 and the start of last year?  I don't know a whole lot about him. Does he project better at FS than SS in the NFL?  The scouting reports I read all  seem to highlight his SS skill set. 

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I know Joseph played FS in 2012 and 2013 - but didn't he play SS in 2014 and the start of last year? I don't know a whole lot about him. Does he project better at FS than SS in the NFL? The scouting reports I read all seem to highlight his SS skill set.

Yeah I see that also. I want to say he's interchangeable at the 2 safety spots. He has the center field type of sideline to sideline speed, but he also has that in the box tackling intangibles. If we drafted him, I could easily see him playing all over the place, but manning center field would be his top priority.

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I know Joseph played FS in 2012 and 2013 - but didn't he play SS in  2014 and the start of last year?  I don't know a whole lot about him. Does he project better at FS than SS in the NFL?  The scouting reports I read all  seem to highlight his SS skill set. 

 

A lot of people seem to think his physicality would better suit him as an in-the-box safety, but I am intrigued at the thought of using him how Seattle does with Earl Thomas. His biggest concern coming into this season was his coverage skills, but he looked pretty good the few games he played this year (5 pick in only a few games).

 

The thought of this guy laying the wood (seriously one of the hardest hitters I've seen come out in a long time) and getting interceptions from the center-fielder spot is intriguing.

 

For the record, I am terrible at evaluating deep safeties. I thought Cody Prewitt was going to be a stud...

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