...I had Bortles as a fine pick for us who deserved to go top 10.

 

I can't decide if I think your obsession is clouding your memory, or if you're just purposely lying.

 

http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/top...cf/?p=8323
 

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He's quite good. Solid day two prospect with room to rise to the late 1st if everything breaks right.


 

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

I can't decide if this is talking about the same Teddy who was a chip shot field goal away from beating the Seahawks and going to the 2nd round of the playoffs, or Vic Beasley who led all rookies in total pressures and was among the league leaders the second half of the season...who also took over the game against the undefeated Panthers in that huge week 16 upset. Either way I addressed it minutes ago also. You too need a major memory refresher.

 

It's been suggested the Vikes was perhaps one of the four teams who contacted the Broncos about Brock Osweiler.

 

Then there's this:

 

https://twitter.com/NFLDraftBites/status...6766028800

 


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<p class="" style="font-size:26px;">Sorry for honesty Teddy Bridgewater Fan Club. I'm MINN- I go after Osweiler in FA then consider trading up Carson Wentz or Paxton Lynch 23rd

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

^ Teddy didn't have the greatest season, but that would be an incredibly shortsighted move by Minnesota.

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Yep, I had Bortles as a borderline first rounder after just a couple weeks into the season. Pretty darn solid if you ask me. Did you keep looking to Dec 30th (Still before the season even ended and the draft process started) where I said this?

 

<p class="" style="font-size:12px;font-weight:bold;color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">HiggyJ15, on 30 Dec 2013 - 3:03 PM, said:<a class="" href='http://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?app=forums&module=forums&section=findpost&pid=95490'></a>

If we could get Clowney in the first then Bortles with our second pick (whether it's trading back up into the second or in the second round) I would love this scenario

<p style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Gonna be pretty darn hard to get two top 10 picks...

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Yep, I had Bortles as a borderline first rounder after just a couple weeks into the season. Pretty darn solid if you ask me. 

 

You got the Ted and Bortles picks exactly backwards.

 

Ted was pretty much a second rounder.  If the Texans weren't picking first in the second, he surely would have been.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

You got the Ted and Bortles picks exactly backwards.

 

Ted was pretty much a second rounder.  If the Texans weren't picking first in the second, he surely would have been.

Yeah, the league goofed. Any redraft there are 3 top 10 QBs from that class. 

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Yeah, the league goofed. Any redraft there are 3 top 10 QBs from that class. 

 

No.  It's ok to admit you goofed.

 

He's handcuffing that offense with his limitations, and their tailoring the pass game to adjust down/scale back for them.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Did y'all see where the Vikings GM all but called Bridgewater a game manager? If you watched any Vikings games this year it's not a surprise given all the dink and dunk passes he threw.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...loose-more

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

No.  It's ok to admit you goofed.

 

He's handcuffing that offense with his limitations, and their tailoring the pass game to adjust down/scale back for them.

It's either that, or they're running their offense through one of the most elite running backs in history...especially while they also have perhaps the worst wide receiver corps in the league. 

 

We'll see in a couple years, but you just like many others are trying to call it waaaaaay before there has been enough evidence to make any conclusions. So far he's done what's asked/expected and done it well, to the point where he was a chip shot field goal away from going to the second round of the playoffs. I can safely assure you Blake wouldn't have been able to do that with the Vikings this year.

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I vote Jack cause the new NFL requires high quality Linebackers. Teams use TE all the time to create mismatches. And a core of Smith, Poz, and Jack be deadly.


I know alot want Jack to replace Poz however Poz is a big guy who creates turnovers. And makes plays.


So Those three be a great core of LBS

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It's either that, or they're running their offense through one of the most elite running backs in history...especially while they also have perhaps the worst wide receiver corps in the league. 

 

We'll see in a couple years, but you just like many others are trying to call it waaaaaay before there has been enough evidence to make any conclusions. So far he's done what's asked/expected and done it well, to the point where he was a chip shot field goal away from going to the second round of the playoffs. I can safely assure you Blake wouldn't have been able to do that with the Vikings this year.

 

Wow...way to go out on a limb.  Since...you know...we'll never know.

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It's either that, or they're running their offense through one of the most elite running backs in history...especially while they also have perhaps the worst wide receiver corps in the league.


We'll see in a couple years, but you just like many others are trying to call it waaaaaay before there has been enough evidence to make any conclusions. So far he's done what's asked/expected and done it well, to the point where he was a chip shot field goal away from going to the second round of the playoffs. I can safely assure you Blake wouldn't have been able to do that with the Vikings this year.

Why do you care KY? You are arguing with people who thought there was no way we would take a QB at 3 that year. Let them continue to think they knew it all along that both Carr and Bortles would do well. Even if you end up wrong about Teddy, 2 out of 3 ain't bad when it comes to QBs.


For what it is worth, I appreciate your input as a casual observer of the draft (relative to some on this board).

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Why do you care KY? You are arguing with people who thought there was no way we would take a QB at 3 that year. Let them continue to think they knew it all along that both Carr and Bortles would do well. Even if you end up wrong about Teddy, 2 out of 3 ain't bad when it comes to QBs.


For what it is worth, I appreciate your input as a casual observer of the draft (relative to some on this board).

I'd enjoy his input more too if he didn't come off as so pompous.

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I'd enjoy his input more too if he didn't come off as so pompous.

Fair enough, looks like a cyclical event though. I think a certain segment of this board is trying to manufacture a new TMD.

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It's either that, or they're running their offense through one of the most elite running backs in history...especially while they also have perhaps the worst wide receiver corps in the league. 

 

We'll see in a couple years, but you just like many others are trying to call it waaaaaay before there has been enough evidence to make any conclusions. So far he's done what's asked/expected and done it well, to the point where he was a chip shot field goal away from going to the second round of the playoffs. I can safely assure you Blake wouldn't have been able to do that with the Vikings this year.

 

Dear god, a truly contributing, non-game manager would have easily put them in the second round.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Fair enough, looks like a cyclical event though. I think a certain segment of this board is trying to manufacture a new TMD.

 

Yup, you saw through it.  Amazing insight.  You foiled the conspiracy for sure.

 

TMD pulled anything/everything out of his rear trying to "Trade Places" and beg people to like him (only after they were victim to his bullying them with is "opinions" of "fact.")  He really didn't know much what he was talking about and always overspoke (doubling, tripling down on the lunacy,) having to try and back up his nonsense after the fact.  Usually with more nonsense devoid of fact.  That's fine if you're an unobjective fan, because that's what fans do, but doing that under the guise of "objectivity" is falsehood.

 

KYjaggy is someone baptized in the church of TwitterScout^TM.  If you've spent any time on Twitter following these guys, you learn real quick they have an extremely high opinion of themselves.  That's the only TMD comparison to be made, tbh.  That, and the unhealthy desire to be "right," rather than be objective.  Not all.  The best admit their misses and aren't ashamed, they don't pile excuses on top of the miss like sprinkles on ice cream.  Every observer misses whether or not you use spider charts.  Some choose not to believe that.  Most are victim of paralysis by analysis, where the data, not the ability to make good judgments, overwhelms them.

 

One highjacked threads, the other does not.  One insulted the entire board as if he were above it, and the other does not.  One had epic meltdowns (particularly when their own words were used against them in the discussion,) the other does not.  One could only argue, the other can discuss. And I can't recall one of the two ever earning a warning.

 

So, yes.  I suppose they are the same.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

Too many threads these days are getting highjacked by people having a go at each other. Really ruins the discussions.


On topic, we can't go wrong with Jack, Bosa or Ramsey. I personally think Jack will be the better player of the 3, we have greater need in the other 2 positions though. Will probably be out of our hands though as 2 will most likely be gone before we pick

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Although my preference shifts daily between Bosa, Ramsey, and Jack, I chose Ramsey in this poll, due to this draft's depth in defensive linemen, and lack of depth at safety, which makes me think the best course of action to maximize the value of all my picks would be to go with Ramsey at #5 and look for defensive line later. 

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