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knarnn · 03-07-2016, 09:54 PM

Quote:All due respect how would he know about Bruce Irvin plans?

I dunno. These guys have the "sources".

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Jagzfanfromiowa · 03-07-2016, 09:55 PM

Where's he reporting this?

knarnn · 03-07-2016, 09:55 PM

Quote:Where's he reporting this?

Just heard it on 1010

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Cleatwood · 03-07-2016, 09:56 PM

Quote:All due respect how would he know about Bruce Irvin plans?

Because that's his job.

C-Dub93 · 03-07-2016, 09:59 PM

Quote:None of them have anywhere near the money we do, on top of no state income tax. We are also seen as a team on the rise with a good owner, GM, HC, and young franchise QB with stability. Irvin to us seems like a done deal. If Jackson's number 1 priority is the money the Raider's can't compete with us because of the crazy state taxes in Cali. Vernon can stay in Florida by coming here. I think we're in a pretty good position to land all three.

You need to realize that just because we have more money doesn't mean that is the end all. if a team has 40M and we have 80M, that doesn't mean we trump the team with 40M on every FA. Not like we're going to offer some ridiculous 20M+ deal for the first year on these players to make a team bow out.

I honestly don't get this argument. "Well, we have more money than any team, so that means we can sign everyone we want. No one else has a chance."

That'd be true if most of the league didn't have a [BLEEP] ton of cap too.

C-Dub93 · 03-07-2016, 10:01 PM

Garrafolo tweeting Raiders making strong push for Osemele, favorites to sign him.

That'd be a huge get for the Raiders. I don't see us paying 10+M for a guard unfortunately. Think Jeff Allen or JR Sweezy are the likely targets (hopefully Allen more so than Sweezy).

Bortles2Blackmon · 03-07-2016, 10:02 PM

If Irvin visits wednesday make sure he doesn't leave without signing a contract!

Vino · 03-07-2016, 10:02 PM

Quote:You need to realize that just because we have more money doesn't mean that is the end all. if a team has 40M and we have 80M, that doesn't mean we trump the team with 40M on every FA. Not like we're going to offer some ridiculous 20M+ deal for the first year on these players to make a team bow out.

I honestly don't get this argument. "Well, we have more money than any team, so that means we can sign everyone we want. No one else has a chance."

That'd be true if most of the league didn't have a [BAD WORD REMOVED] ton of cap too.

That's not my argument and I literally laid out in that same post more than just "we have all the money" but ok.

"A man with no sauce is lost.

But that same man can get lost in the sauce."

Cleatwood · 03-07-2016, 10:04 PM

Quote:Garrafolo tweeting Raiders making strong push for Osemele, favorites to sign him.

That'd be a huge get for the Raiders. I don't see us paying 10+M for a guard unfortunately. Think Jeff Allen or JR Sweezy are the likely targets (hopefully Allen more so than Sweezy).

I really don't want Sweezy. He's got Beadles 2.0 written all over him.

knarnn · 03-07-2016, 10:04 PM

Quote:If Irvin visits wednesday make sure he doesn't leave without signing a contract!

Hopefully Khan is flying him out and holding him hostage.

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

J-Mizzal · 03-07-2016, 10:04 PM

Quote:Agree, I would be more than happy if we could just come away with him and Jackson and a few mid tier signings

Yup thats all I want, Irvin and Jackson, then I dont care who else we get lol

Jags this is your year

C-Dub93 · 03-07-2016, 10:05 PM

Quote:That's not my argument and I literally laid out in that same post more than just "we have all the money" but ok.

Well people keep saying how we have more money than everyone so we should get this guy, this guy, and this guy. I don't get why it keeps getting stated. That doesn't mean we get every FA we want just because we have more money to spend.

J-Mizzal · 03-07-2016, 10:05 PM

Quote:McShay reporting Irvin set to visit JAX on Wednesday

done and done

Early FA guys dont usually make more then 1 visit unless they get low balled, he wouldnt come here if the money wasnt right

Jags this is your year

GingerJag · 03-07-2016, 10:06 PM

Quote:Hopefully Khan is flying him out and holding him hostage.

We'll just keep him locked up on the Kismet until he agrees to a contract

10 years ago we had Bob Hope, Johnny Cash, and Steve Jobs..... Please don't die, Kevin Bacon.

C-Dub93 · 03-07-2016, 10:07 PM

Quote:I really don't want Sweezy. He's got Beadles 2.0 written all over him.

IDK about Beadles, but he definitely isn't "good". From what I gather, he's a very solid run blocker but his pass blocking leaves a TON to be desired. The Seahawks line is terrible, and he was part of that

I have a buddy whose a Seahawks fan and he could care less if Sweezy or Okung returns...certainly doesn't excite me. Unfortunately, there isn't a ton of guards/centers on market that are very good, and if we don't want to pay 10M+ for a guy like Osemele, but we want a veteran in there with Joeckel and Cann/Linder, than we're going to have to settle for an average at best guy.

Like I said, I'd much prefer Allen, but there seems to be a lot of smoke around Sweezy...

imtheblkranger · 03-07-2016, 10:08 PM

Quote:im guessing to sign the contract? The only reason I can think hes waiting till Wed to visit

Players aren't allowed to have contact till Wednesday. Only agents.

IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

C-Dub93 · 03-07-2016, 10:09 PM

IDK what to think on this whole McShay thing. He hasn't tweeted anything nor is anything being said on twitter about it.

On top of that, McShay is a draft analyst. I'm not sure what type of sources he has that would indicate where a Free Agent is going, but then again, who knows. I guess he probably talks with agents and such regarding draft prospects? IDK...

leopold332002 · 03-07-2016, 10:09 PM

Quote:I dunno. These guys have the "sources".

well i hope someone else confirm his source.

C-Dub93 · 03-07-2016, 10:10 PM

Quote:done and done

Early FA guys dont usually make more then 1 visit unless they get low balled, he wouldnt come here if the money wasnt right

Not sure I agree with that. Mario Williams, Charles Johnson, etc. are already going to their 2nd visit here shortly after checking out somewhere. Irvin seems to have two other very strong suitors in ARZ and ATL.

leopold332002 · 03-07-2016, 10:10 PM

Quote:IDK what to think on this whole McShay thing. He hasn't tweeted anything nor is anything being said on twitter about it.

On top of that, McShay is a draft analyst. I'm not sure what type of sources he has that would indicate where a Free Agent is going, but then again, who knows. I guess he probably talks with agents and such regarding draft prospects? IDK...

thats my point