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** The Official Malik Jackson Thread **

#81

I couldn't resist the urge to check out what old Walter had to say about this and it was just as I expected....

 

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[Image: jaguarsb_logo.gif] Jaguars sign DE/DT Malik Jackson (6 years, $90M; $42M guaranteed): C- Grade 
Believe me, I had a very strong urge to give the Jaguars a Millen for this. By giving Malik Jackson a 6-year deal worth $90 million with $42 million guaranteed, Jacksonville has made him one of the highest-paid non-quarterbacks in NFL history. Jackson is certainly not one of the top non-quarterback players ever. In fact, he wasn't even a top-three free agent on the Broncos! He was fourth, behind Von Miller, Derek Wolfe and Brandon Marshall. 

Unfortunately, I can't award a Millen here. The Jaguars have a ton of cap room and really nothing to spend it on. They needed to overpay to lure players to their team. They did so with Julius Thomas last year, and that didn't work. Jackson has a better chance of panning out, so the Jaguars deserve the tiniest bit of credit for effort. 

Having said that, this is not a recipe for success. It's been proven time and again that overpaying in free agency doesn't work - especially when a particular player leaves a perennial Super Bowl contender and signs with a terrible franchise. Those moves have a very low-percentage chance of working. Making matters worse, the Jaguars will be asking Jackson to play in a 4-3 for the first time when he's always operated in a 3-4. Again, Jackson could pan out in Jacksonville, but his production almost certainly won't match his price tag. 
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#82

Lol Walter is a clown. Always has been.


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#83
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2016, 04:35 PM by Jagwired.)

Entirely to much money on a very average player IMO. But what the hell, they have to spend it somewhere I guess. I hope dudes coming to ball.


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#84

Quote:I couldn't resist the urge to check out what old Walter had to say about this and it was just as I expected....


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[Image: jaguarsb_logo.gif]Jaguars sign DE/DT Malik Jackson (6 years, $90M; $42M guaranteed): C- Grade
Believe me, I had a very strong urge to give the Jaguars a Millen for this. By giving Malik Jackson a 6-year deal worth $90 million with $42 million guaranteed, Jacksonville has made him one of the highest-paid non-quarterbacks in NFL history. Jackson is certainly not one of the top non-quarterback players ever. In fact, he wasn't even a top-three free agent on the Broncos! He was fourth, behind Von Miller, Derek Wolfe and Brandon Marshall.

Unfortunately, I can't award a Millen here. The Jaguars have a ton of cap room and really nothing to spend it on. They needed to overpay to lure players to their team. They did so with Julius Thomas last year, and that didn't work. Jackson has a better chance of panning out, so the Jaguars deserve the tiniest bit of credit for effort.

Having said that, this is not a recipe for success. It's been proven time and again that overpaying in free agency doesn't work - especially when a particular player leaves a perennial Super Bowl contender and signs with a terrible franchise. Those moves have a very low-percentage chance of working. Making matters worse, the Jaguars will be asking Jackson to play in a 4-3 for the first time when he's always operated in a 3-4. Again, Jackson could pan out in Jacksonville, but his production almost certainly won't match his price tag.
Read more at <a class="bbc_url" href='http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#fHWZ517lWkTD90Eg.99'>http://walterfootball.com/freeagentsigninggrades.php#fHWZ517lWkTD90Eg.99</a>


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#85

Does anyone else see that Jackson is not listed as a DT rather then DE. Everywhere.
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#86

Quote:He has a hatred for Caldwell. He never likes anything Caldwell does.
 

To be fair, I don't think that's it at all with Walt.  He just doesn't understand free agency or contracts at all.  He's basing everything off of what he could do in Madden.  

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#87
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2016, 04:48 PM by Holger.)

It's not like the Jags payed $5 million a year more than the 2nd highest bidder. the cap has raised that's where the market has moved to. There is a risk of a winners course but sitting on the sideline with those holes and cap space is not an option.
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#88

Walter...the guy who call Bortles a "bust" after his first season...OK boy.


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#89

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#90

Curious if moving to a hybrid D.
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#91

I felt pretty good about the news, but hearing that the Broncos were willing to pay him $13M a year made me feel better. Thinking about Stroud and Henderson made me feel a little better still. But that quote from WalterFootball seals it, great move.  Smile


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#92

Quote:Does anyone else see that Jackson is not listed as a DT rather then DE. Everywhere.


Because he played DE in Denver. They run a 34 and he played end, it's not really a brain buster.
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#93

Quote:I felt pretty good about the news, but hearing that the Broncos were willing to pay him $13M a year made me feel better. Thinking about Stroud and Henderson made me feel a little better still. But that quote from WalterFootball seals it, great move. Smile


Its the 42 million guranteed thats concerning.
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#94

According to this guy...

 

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/HaysCarlyon'>Hays Carlyon ‏@HaysCarlyon </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/HaysCarlyon/status/707309173986500608' title="3:57 PM - 8 Mar 2016">14m14 minutes ago</a>

<p class="">After Jackson deal, <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#Jaguars</a> now only have... the most cap space in the NFL. Still.

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#95

Quote:Its the 42 million guranteed thats concerning.
 

Why?  What would your figure have been to make it acceptable?

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#96

Quote:It's not about paying guys. It's about paying the right guys. Trust the guy who's spent most of the past two seasons watching Broncos games, Jackson is the "product of his surroundings" guy. He's Dave Thomas, the cornerback who went from looking really good when paired with Fernando Bryant, Donovin Darius and Carnell Lake to being godawful with the Giants after losing those players around him. Without Ware, Miller and Wolfe pulling attention off of him, Jackson will struggle.

 

If we'd signed Vernon to an offer sheet larger than that, I'd be stoked. There are FAs out there I'd love to sign, but pursuing guys who were, in many ways, the weakest link on their team at that position and throwing monster contracts at them worries me. 
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#97

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According to this guy...

 

<div style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Hays Carlyon ‏@HaysCarlyon  14m14 minutes ago

After Jackson deal, #Jaguars now only have... the most cap space in the NFL. Still.

 

 


 

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FREAKING CRAZY!!

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#98

Quote:Why?  What would your figure have been to make it acceptable?
 

41 million ofcourse.

Such a horrible organization overpaying for the best available players

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#99

In a case like this, you just have to trust that your GM did his due diligence in a guy's character to decide if he will check out after getting his payday.


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He's saying Julius Thomas was a bust? Really?
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