I didn't want either of these guys anyway, so it kind of works out. At least DC's hand won't be forced to reach.

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Still think RG3 is a franchise QB? That really only further serves your point.

 

Yes, I do, I don't think the guy that posted a 100+ QB rating as a rookie is gone forever. I'm willing to give him a mulligan for being rushed back through injury and not having an offseason to work with, although next season will probably tell us a lot about his future. Are you giving up on him at 23?

 

But I was talking about Luck and RGIII's stature as prospects during the draft process. That was a special year in which both guys had teams falling all over themselves to draft 1 and 2. Most years everyone is trying to trade now if there isn't a dynamite prospect at 1.

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I was never sold on Mettenberger.  The dude has less mobility than Manning.  He has over 100 negative yards rushing .... you gotta be able to generate some positive yards when you scramble (unless you are Manning).   He won't make it in the NFL.

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McCarron looking more and more likely at the top of the 2nd. This is not what we needed to see. It cuts down on player teams might tade up for if Caldwell isnt convinced and Teddy is gone (Mariota) and drops a player we might have had once we traded back (Mettenberger).

 

Wasnt really sold on either but its still better to have them available then not.

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Y'all do realize that those injuries do eventually heal right?


They're careers are not over, in fact i'm pretty sure its only just beginning.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Y'all do realize that those injuries do eventually heal right?


They're careers are not over, in fact i'm pretty sure its only just beginning.

 

But you would be dumb to pick a already questionable QB in the first round after an injury, Mettenburger will def go 2nd or 3rd now, and Murray will def go 4th or 5th now, before they were 1st and 2nd round guys

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<B><FONT color=cyan>Jags this is your year</FONT></B>

Y'all do realize that those injuries do eventually heal right?


They're careers are not over, in fact i'm pretty sure its only just beginning.

 

Murray was on a Matt Barkley type slide. Now, he's probably a 6th/7th round guy knowing he's basically a redshirt for a year.

 

I think Mettenberger had a chance to go round one. Now, it's really an unknown. I could see maybe a team like New England spending a third on him knowing he misses the year. But he was in play for alot of teams as a franchise QB type. That injury might have cost him millions.

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Still think RG3 is a franchise QB? That really only further serves your point.

As annoyed as most were with RG3 and his media stunt, the dude literally had no off-season.  Health-wise he was about 85-90 percent at the beginning of the season, but he didn't work on his craft at all in the off-season so that's why he's playing bad by his standard.  Also, the 'Skins entire team are pretty bad; it's a perfect storm.  Can't put it all on him.

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What is hilarious is Schefter sent out some tweet that the 2014 is not as strong but 2015 looks fantastic. It's almost like we could just replay sound bites and re-post tweets every offseason. Next year is always the year, until next year comes.

It's an old adage. 

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Yep. I think Luck caught a huge break by going to Indianapolis. He is out of the spotlight. I mean outside of Indiana and whoever they are playing, nobody gets their games on TV. If he was in a big market like New York or DC, he would be getting talked about alot more. There was another thread comparing Luck to Dalton and there really was not much of a difference in terms of team record and their own stats. But people blast Dalton as average and crown Luck as the second-coming.

 

Luck isn't any worse of a QB this season, the difference is the loss of both Wayne and Arians. Hamilton to Luck this season is like Charlie Strong to Bridgewater. Combine that with a running game that no one fears as well as lackluster at the remaining WR & TE spots and you have Luck's stats as they are. 

 

If what you are seeing now is Luck's worst, then once they do fill that offense out with talent at WR/ TE and a running game then his numbers will be off the chain. 

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I was never sold on Mettenberger.  The dude has less mobility than Manning.  He has over 100 negative yards rushing .... you gotta be able to generate some positive yards when you scramble (unless you are Manning).   He won't make it in the NFL.

 

I agree about Mettenberger....while I don't necessarily want a running QB, you have to at least not be a complete statue back there, i,e, Leftwich....you at least need some pocket mobility. 

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Luck isn't any worse of a QB this season, the difference is the loss of both Wayne and Arians. Hamilton to Luck this season is like Charlie Strong to Bridgewater. Combine that with a running game that no one fears as well as lackluster at the remaining WR & TE spots and you have Luck's stats as they are. 

 

If what you are seeing now is Luck's worst, then once they do fill that offense out with talent at WR/ TE and a running game then his numbers will be off the chain. 

 

Luck was bad last year too( he led the nfl in turnovers) had a passer rating of 74, and a completion percentage of 54%... thats the reason arians and his staff was let go in the first place.... now Luck is still struggling this year with his own oc from his college days( not a good sign)

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.. thats the reason arians and his staff was let go in the first place

haha, you're funny

 

epic first post

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haha, you're funny

 

epic first post

 

its kinda the truth, Luck has accuracy issues... the colts brass brought in his personal o-coordinator from stanford... and he still cant complete 60% of his passes

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Arians was let go of? Now I've heard everything.

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Luck was bad last year too( he led the nfl in turnovers) had a passer rating of 74, and a completion percentage of 54%... thats the reason arians and his staff was let go in the first place.... now Luck is still struggling this year with his own oc from his college days( not a good sign)

 

Last year was Luck's rookie season. The Colts let him play pretty much like they did with Peyton Manning's rookie year - i.e. they let him sling the rock with no training wheels. In both cases, yes, there was a lot of INT's but thats to be expected with a large number of pass attempts. 

 

IMO, the problem is this season is unlike with Manning where they continued to let him sling it - this years Colts team with Pep Hamilton has been much more reserved philosophically than it was under Arians. Luck is not benefitting from that. Some people saw it coming before the year even started. 

 

Then add to it that they lost Wayne and their running game stinks....and its not a surprise to see Luck struggling this season. 

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Last year was Luck's rookie season. The Colts let him play pretty much like they did with Peyton Manning's rookie year - i.e. they let him sling the rock with no training wheels. In both cases, yes, there was a lot of INT's but thats to be expected with a large number of pass attempts. 

 

IMO, the problem is this season is unlike with Manning where they continued to let him sling it - this years Colts team with Pep Hamilton has been much more reserved philosophically than it was under Arians. Luck is not benefitting from that. Some people saw it coming before the year even started. 

 

Then add to it that they lost Wayne and their running game stinks....and its not a surprise to see Luck struggling this season. 

 

no, a rookie Peyton would have had a passer rating of at least 95 in this pass happy era of the NFL( fact). Luck is just not an accurate qb, i watch his games all the time, and his recievers have to make circus catches for him all the time... he overthrows, underthrows a lot of balls

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I would blow my brains out if my team ran Pep Hamilton's offense. Such a chore to watch.

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Arians was let go of? Now I've heard everything.

 

edit: thought I said it by mistake...lol......anyway But the loss of Arians is directly responsible for some of Luck's struggles this year. 

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Last year was Luck's rookie season. The Colts let him play pretty much like they did with Peyton Manning's rookie year - i.e. they let him sling the rock with no training wheels. In both cases, yes, there was a lot of INT's but thats to be expected with a large number of pass attempts. 

 

IMO, the problem is this season is unlike with Manning where they continued to let him sling it - this years Colts team with Pep Hamilton has been much more reserved philosophically than it was under Arians. Luck is not benefitting from that. Some people saw it coming before the year even started. 

 

Then add to it that they lost Wayne and their running game stinks....and its not a surprise to see Luck struggling this season. 

 

 

how did they lose Wayne.. what happened

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