People's minds are made up at this point on who they are voting for.  So the people either worried for Trump or hopeful this affects his candidacy can calm down.

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Ask better questions.

 

Despite your assertion, we are not at anything close to war with Mexico. An "occupation" would infer control. Illegal immigrants living here is not an occupation.

 

If we were really at war with Russia, what are the chances of a pro-Russian judge getting appointed? Your hypothetical makes no sense.

 

Better time would be spent if you'd explain why Trump is deflecting attention away from the facts.

 

The judge in question made very reasonable rulings his own legal team accepted and did not contest.

 

There are plenty of Russian-American judges right now. Are you implying we should revoke their judicial status if we went to war with Russia and they held pro-Russian sentiment? Did you feel the same when we went to war with Iraq that we should have revoked Iraqi-American judges if they had pro-Iraq sentiment? They are American citizens.

 

As for Trump's deflections, I am not going to pretend to know his court strategy. All I can point out is how there is evidence that Judge Curial should be recused.

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People's minds are made up at this point on who they are voting for.  So the people either worried for Trump or hopeful this affects his candidacy can calm down.

 

Maybe some people.  I'm still not sure if I can honestly vote for any of the main candidates.

 

There are plenty of Russian-American judges right now. Are you implying we should revoke their judicial status if we went to war with Russia and they held pro-Russian sentiment? Did you feel the same when we went to war with Iraq that we should have revoked Iraqi-American judges if they had pro-Iraq sentiment? They are American citizens.

 

As for Trump's deflections, I am not going to pretend to know his court strategy. All I can point out is how there is evidence that Judge Curial should be recused.

 

1.  There really is no "evidence" other than Trump's idiotic mouth running.

 

2.  If there was any "evidence" I would think that his legal team would know how to handle it properly.

 

3.  Trump's "evidence" is that the judge is "Mexican" which is outright wrong.

 

4.  If Trump was right and actually as smart as most trumpettes seem to think that he is, he would have talked with his lawyers who support the very association that the trumpettes bring up rather than blab about it on national TV.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Maybe some people.  I'm still not sure if I can honestly vote for any of the main candidates.

 

 

1.  There really is no "evidence" other than Trump's idiotic mouth running.

 

2.  If there was any "evidence" I would think that his legal team would know how to handle it properly.

 

There is plenty of evidence. Read the thread. You just don't agree with the evidence. As for why his team of lawyers hasn't called for it, like I said above, I am not going to pretend I understand their strategy.

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Maybe some people.  I'm still not sure if I can honestly vote for any of the main candidates.

 

 

1.  There really is no "evidence" other than Trump's idiotic mouth running.

 

2.  If there was any "evidence" I would think that his legal team would know how to handle it properly.

 

3.  Trump's "evidence" is that the judge is "Mexican" which is outright wrong.

 

4.  If Trump was right and actually as smart as most trumpettes seem to think that he is, he would have talked with his lawyers who support the very association that the trumpettes bring up rather than blab about it on national TV.

 

'Most' people.  

 

Yes, you've made it abundantly clear the past several months that you don't like Trump. Like I said, your mind is made up.

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There is plenty of evidence. Read the thread. You just don't agree with the evidence. As for why his team of lawyers hasn't called for it, like I said above, I am not going to pretend I understand their strategy.

 

So that "plenty of evidence" is because Trump calls the judge "Mexican"?  Or is it because the organization that Trumpettes cite isn't the organization that they lead people to believe?  Maybe it's because Trump told his trumpettes that the judge made "bad, bad rulings".

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

'Most' people.  

 

Yes, you've made it abundantly clear the past several months that you don't like Trump. Like I said, your mind is made up.

 

No, my mind is not made up.  At this point, if it comes down to either Hillary or Trump, I would entertain the idea of voting for Trump only to keep the Clintons out of The White House.  However, I don't know if I can do that in good conscience because there really is no difference between the Clintons and Trump.  Neither one truly cares about this country and it's all about the power and the money.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

I want to ask a hypothetical.

 

We are in a war with, say, Russia. A popular, well-known defendant is running for political office who is heavily in favor of occupying Russia. He has a court hearing for whatever, unrelated. A Russian-American with pro-Russian stances and association with pro-Russian organizations is the judge of this civil case. Is it racist for the the defendant to ask for a recusal of the judge?

 

First I would say no, because Russian, much like Mexican, is not a race, but a nationality. Ignoring that, is it wrong to ask for a recusal in that situation?

 

There are valid reasons to request a recusal.  I don't have a problem with any defendant requesting one, and don't have a problem when the judge turns the request down, either.

 

You're essentially asking if a member of the NAACP can adjudicate the trial of a member of the KKK.  Answer:  maybe, depending on the level of involvement of both parties.

 

Do you really think that the fact that the judge's parents are Mexican, and Donald has said he wants to build a wall, that the judge is biased and we have to delay the trial even further?  Or could it be that the admittedly clever Donald is using a Jedi mind trick in an attempt to get what he wants?

 

Given what I've seen in the past few months (Remember Ted Cruz's Lee Harvey Oswald lovin' dad?), I'm siding with the latter.

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  Neither one truly cares about this country and it's all about the power and the money.

 

My only disagreement is that I think Hillary really does have that radical 60s lefty totalitarianism floating around in her brain whereas Trump might be authoritarian to get more rich and more famous but he won't be poking around in our personal private business to get what he wants. Trump doesn't care what you and I do while Hillary cares deeply that we do exactly what she thinks we ought.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

His support comes from

1. Party lines. Republican or bust

2. Tired of politics as usual

3. Not a politician, therefore change we can believe in.......wait. Nevermind.

4. Pure dislike of Clinton. Liberals. Progressives.

5. Hoping, but not really knowing where he really stands. But at least it's a 50-50 shot

6. Believing the wall is the most important issue this country is facing.

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My only disagreement is that I think Hillary really does have that radical 60s lefty totalitarianism floating around in her brain whereas Trump might be authoritarian to get more rich and more famous but he won't be poking around in our personal private business to get what he wants. Trump doesn't care what you and I do while Hillary cares deeply that we do exactly what she thinks we ought.

 

I think that Hillary doesn't really care about us.  It's all about the power and prestige not to mention the money to be made.  As far as Trump... well the same thing could be said.

 

This is an "American Idol" type of election rather than an election of a leader.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

There are plenty of Russian-American judges right now. Are you implying we should revoke their judicial status if we went to war with Russia and they held pro-Russian sentiment? Did you feel the same when we went to war with Iraq that we should have revoked Iraqi-American judges if they had pro-Iraq sentiment? They are American citizens.

 

As for Trump's deflections, I am not going to pretend to know his court strategy. All I can point out is how there is evidence that Judge Curial should be recused.

 

I was speaking more towards appointments, but you're right, if they are on the bench they should stay on the bench. If they are American citizens , were born here, they should recuse themselves only if the case concerns something they are directly involved with. Still, your hypothetical situation is still nonsensical. The immigration situation is quite different than war with a historically antagonistic superpower.

 

I've seen no evidence strong enough that Curial should recuse, nor have I read anything indicating his rulings on the case thus far have been unfair.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Politics. Weird. Hypocritical. Phony.

It amazes me that the Ryan's, Gingrich et al condemn Trumps statements, and define them as racist. But. We still support him.

It's like..yeah, he's racist, but he's the good kind. Or, but he's OUR racist.

Now? Is he? Or is he just ignorant? Someone who has always shot his mouth off with no consequences. Weird dude.

He certainly has sown the seeds of controversy.

In the you can't make this up dept....now his golf tourney was taken from his course and moved to Mexico.


The guy keeps going to the dog park, stepping in dog piss..some from his own dog...then complains of the stink.


Then there's Hillary who acts black when she campaigns in certain areas.


Until we as voters actually do something, regardless of whether it's more tea in the harbor or the occupy movement, we get what we deserve.


Rant. Over.

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Politics. Weird. Hypocritical. Phony.

It amazes me that the Ryan's, Gingrich et al condemn Trumps statements, and define them as racist. But. We still support him.

It's like..yeah, he's racist, but he's the good kind. Or, but he's OUR racist.

Now? Is he? Or is he just ignorant? Someone who has always shot his mouth off with no consequences. Weird dude.

He certainly has sown the seeds of controversy.

In the you can't make this up dept....now his golf tourney was taken from his course and moved to Mexico.


The guy keeps going to the dog park, stepping in dog [BAD WORD REMOVED]..some from his own dog...then complains of the stink.


Then there's Hillary who acts black when she campaigns in certain areas.


Until we as voters actually do something, regardless of whether it's more tea in the harbor or the occupy movement, we get what we deserve.


Rant. Over.

 

The whole premise of this thread is wrong. Trump is not a racist. Mexican is not a race. Trump is 100% for Trump; race is immaterial to him. And a lot of the Republican establishment and the conservative media are supporting the idea of someone like Romney or David French to run. There's not a lot of support for him from conservatives, and definitely not "much support" for him. He won the Republican nomination, but conservatives are a minority in the Republican party.


 

 

The anyone-but-Hillary position is causing some of the Republicans who hate Trump to nonetheless support him. Even if you consider Trump "racist" electing him is better than electing a traitor. 

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

The election is a choice between National Socialism and International Socialism.

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The whole premise of this thread is wrong. Trump is not a racist. Mexican is not a race. Trump is 100% for Trump; race is immaterial to him. And a lot of the Republican establishment and the conservative media are supporting the idea of someone like Romney or David French to run. There's not a lot of support for him from conservatives, and definitely not "much support" for him. He won the Republican nomination, but conservatives are a minority in the Republican party.


 

 

The anyone-but-Hillary position is causing some of the Republicans who hate Trump to nonetheless support him. Even if you consider Trump "racist" electing him is better than electing a traitor. 

 

The fact that race is immaterial to him is what pubs and dems have a problem with. There SHOULD be a privileged and non-privileged class in their eyes so they can play identity politics. When you take that away, you are left with two parties that essentially agree on the same things: military interventionism, global trade organizations, bloated government, and wall street lobbying. The fact that Trump wants to be friendly with Russia to avoid WW3, stop being the world police for free, ultimately ignore the middle-east, end the global trade initiatives, equalize everyone in terms of identity, and not take any lobbyist/PAC money is a big no-no. This are all antithetical to both Democrats and the Republicans.

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The problem with that is....what Trump says today, may change tomorrow

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The problem with that is....what Trump says today, may change tomorrow

 

Maybe, that is always a risk, but what he is saying now is much better than what Clinton is saying now. He has been very consistent on trade, one of my biggest issues, so I am a little more flexible on his other positions.

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The election is a choice between National Socialism and International Socialism.

Good one.

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I was speaking more towards appointments, but you're right, if they are on the bench they should stay on the bench. If they are American citizens , were born here, they should recuse themselves only if the case concerns something they are directly involved with. Still, your hypothetical situation is still nonsensical. The immigration situation is quite different than war with a historically antagonistic superpower.


I've seen no evidence strong enough that Curial should recuse, nor have I read anything indicating his rulings on the case thus far have been unfair.

In California, you cannot be a member of the boyscouts and be a judge.


The idea that you could be involved in a group actively boycotting a presidential nominee and not recuse yourself is both hypocritical and insane.

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