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Who stood out v. Jets?

#81

Quote:This is based on the first half,


1. Chris Reed was outstanding at LG. He consistently moved his man backwards. Grade - A


2. Yannick looked much better than the scrimmage. Still not impressed with his run defense. Grade - C


3. The ref. I learned it is not a penalty when you hurl dudes at your punter.
 

 

I thought it was telling that Reed started over Bernadeau, and he played ok. He did struggle early on when Henne took over allowing a big defensive play, but otherwise seemed to hold his own out there. I'm not sold on Reed just yet, but he seems to have an inside to one of the Jaguars backup OL spots.


 

Meanwhile, Shatley was stinking up the field at times. I have a tough time understanding why they seem to like him so much.


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#82

Several players from their third string units late in the game stood out for me. All of these names I'd like to see get more time against second stringers and feel have at least a decent shot at making the roster. I'll rank them from according to who I was most impressed with...


  1. Braedon Bowman - I already like him as the Jaguars 3rd TE over Koyack, Jacobs and Sterling. The latter three can vie for a possible 4th TE spot IMHO. Bowmanis a pure TE reminding me of Brent Jones from back in the day with the 49ers. His athleticism was on display.

  2. Corey Grant - His speed just flat out slays. Corey is a demon on KR returns and has the vision to make huge plays as a RB. His ability to catch the ball stood out in this game as well. I feel he has a virtual lock on his roster spot as the team's KR and 4th RB, and that it's up to DRob and Gray to fight for the final roster spot as the team's 3rd RB.

  3. Brandon Allen - He has such a natural deep passing arm that I have all the confidence in the world with him moving forward as a perfect fit for this scheme. He has has an incredible pocket presence able to stand in there despite heavy pressure. I realize he's raw and had a couple INTs dropped, but for a guy just starting out I'm impressed as heck. I'd be fine kicking Henne to the curb and only keeping Bortles and Allen at QB.

  4. Jarrod Wilson - I'm haven't been overly impressed with Peyton Thompson at FS whereas I keep noticing Wilson flying around out there. It's tough to judge this especially with Wilson playing 3rd stringers, but so far I just like the undrafted rookie more as Gipson's backup.

  5. Jamal Robinson - I do see threatening the likes of Walters and Benn for a roster spot, but Robinson appears to have some potential and should be a shoe-in for the PS. I only hope nobody else signs him off the squad.

  6. Holmes and Armbrister - both were getting pressure from the OTTO spot. I don't even know why Chris Smith is being considered there. Chris looks like a DT.

  7. Bjorne Werner - His presence against the Jets 3rd string OL was felt. He'll need to do the same against better competition to have any shot at a roster spot, but I do seem him on Caldwell's speed dial should a pass rusher go down.

I thought about mentioning a couple OLs, but overall the unit's protection was so bad I can't even go there.



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#83

It's funny that within this thread and around the blogosphere there seem to be lots of contrasting opinions on Shatley/Reed/Joeckel's performance.

 

I thought Shatley was alright when with the ones (except for the Williams sack) and Reed was fine except for one pressure allowed. Neither did anything terribly impressive and Reed had some gaffs later on with the twos.  

 

Joeckel seemed fine to me too.  Nothing great, but solid enough.  

 

Basically what you'd expect from a patchwork left side with little quality depth. 


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#84

Quote:It's funny that within this thread and around the blogosphere there seem to be lots of contrasting opinions on Shatley/Reed/Joeckel's performance.

 

I thought Shatley was alright when with the ones (except for the Williams sack) and Reed was fine except for one pressure allowed. Neither did anything terribly impressive and Reed had some gaffs later on with the twos.  

 

Joeckel seemed fine to me too.  Nothing great, but solid enough.  

 

Basically what you'd expect from a patchwork left side with little quality depth. 
 

Shatley if he'd only given up the sack would have to be considered successful, but he got beat a few times, and badly.  I agree Joeckel played fine.  I didn't really notice Reed much which is usually a good thing for an offensive lineman.

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#85

Quote:Shatley if he'd only given up the sack would have to be considered successful, but he got beat a few times, and badly.  I agree Joeckel played fine.  I didn't really notice Reed much which is usually a good thing for an offensive lineman.
 

I only really paid attention to him with the ones.  Only saw him beat the one time with them.


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#86

Quote:I thought it was telling that Reed started over Bernadeau, and he played ok. He did struggle early on when Henne took over allowing a big defensive play, but otherwise seemed to hold his own out there. I'm not sold on Reed just yet, but he seems to have an inside to one of the Jaguars backup OL spots.


 
Meanwhile, Shatley was stinking up the field at times. I have a tough time understanding why they seem to like him so much.


Reed didn't look near as good in pass blocking as he did in run blocking. On a couple of plays, he moved the DT 5-6 yards backwards. Every time he pulled he put a hat on someone. You are correct, Shatley wasn't very good. Reed actually saved his butt on a few plays. I hope Linder comes back soon.
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Quote:Reed didn't look near as good in pass blocking as he did in run blocking. On a couple of plays, he moved the DT 5-6 yards backwards. Every time he pulled he put a hat on someone. You are correct, Shatley wasn't very good. Reed actually saved his butt on a few plays. I hope Linder comes back soon.
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Linder (groin) will practice this week. Beachum will work individual drills and be evaluated day to day. Players are off Monday.
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#89

The starters played well,  the backups played horribly.  Their bums beat our bums.

 

Bortles/Robinson had a field day.


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Quote:Reed didn't look near as good in pass blocking as he did in run blocking. On a couple of plays, he moved the DT 5-6 yards backwards. Every time he pulled he put a hat on someone. You are correct, Shatley wasn't very good. Reed actually saved his butt on a few plays. I hope Linder comes back soon.
 

 

The other day there was an O-zone question with a fan suggesting they make Shatley the C with Linder at LG. To do so would literally be replacing our best OL with our worst OL at the most important, or at least 2nd most important after LT, position on the OL. The difference between Linder and Shatley at Center is night and day.


 

Shatley has learned enough being with this team to be technically sound, but he gets beat consistently in pass protection, and while he does ok zone run blocking, when he needs power he tends to be stood up. He lacks the power to get any real push. I compared him to Wiz in a prior post, but I was wrong about that. At least Wiz could pass block.


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