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Overanalyzing the Soft Spot

#41

Quote:why was wasnt it an option?
It was an option, but they'd have to burn a T.O. to do it.

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#42

Quote:It was an option, but they'd have to burn a T.O. to do it.
ib the 2nd play?
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#43

Quote:ib the 2nd play?
The Jets got that 2nd play off  pretty quick. 

 

I'd guess no-huddle, but the broadcast cut away.  No all-22 for preseason games.

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#44

Quote:ib the 2nd play?


So you burnt a T.O. so you could go into quarters, assuming they keep their same personnel, what's your call???
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#45

Quote:The Jets got that 2nd play off pretty quick.


I'd guess no-huddle, but the broadcast cut away. No all-22 for preseason games.
so after the big first down you dont have time to pull Poz off the field and put in another corner?
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#46
(This post was last modified: 08-12-2016, 11:21 PM by flgatorsandjags.)

Quote:So you burnt a T.O. so you could go into quarters, assuming they keep their same personnel, what's your call???
in the regular season yes I would of called a timeout after the big first down and when they spread them out. In the regular season Gus probably would have too
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#47

Seems like the tight ends always burn us by either taking the quick curl, running a deep in, or simply dragging. I think its a schematic issue. Cyp, poz, and telvin arent new to the system and they still get eaten alive
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#48

Quote:in the regular season yes I would of called a timeout after the big first down and when they spread them out. In the regular season Gus probably would have too


You still haven't given me the play call once you're in quarters formation. Also, calling the timeout there would have been a terrible move, but I probably need to watch more football and not ask my friends.
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#49

Quote:so after the big first down you dont have time to pull Poz off the field and put in another corner?
 

Maybe. Would have had to be a quick substitution, that's for sure. 

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#50

Quote:You still haven't given me the play call once you're in quarters formation. Also, calling the timeout there would have been a terrible move, but I probably need to watch more football and not ask my friends.
I agree you need to watch more football. Where did I say get in quarters only btw? I said dime or quarters. Was it a great play call?
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#51

Quote:Maybe. Would have had to be a quick substitution, that's for sure.
I've seen it happen plenty of times. Its pre-season though. They will do things a little differently to try things out than they will in the regular season
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#52

Quote:I agree you need to watch more football. Where did I say get in quarters only btw? I said dime or quarters. Was it a great play call?


You can give the dime play call if you are more comfortable with that.
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#53

The zone coverage was too shallow. Peyton jumped ahead on to the running back when he should have stayed where he was or pushed back. Telvin was not in a good spot and I think Peyton's depth caused him to take a few false steps in. Also the route was ran pretty well.


These things will happen but its a bit annoying as this whole "stand still in zone" coverage last year drove me mad. Wash says one of the key element he's trying to drive home is reaction within the zone to receivers. Perhaps this is what Peyton is trying to do?
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#54

With Telvins spped and size you'd think he would be a good coverage LB but that's where he struggles the most. Weren't there whispers that Telvin will be off on 3rd down and Jack+Poz will play instead?
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#55

Someone has to take the underneath curl. We're basically giving that up on this play and rallying for a tackle. Telvin has to see the receiver coming across from his right running behind him. Poor awareness in back to back plays. With Telvin's speed I'd think he'd play a deeper and more conservative style since he can close on the underneath stuff so quickly. I don't know... it's preseason and we didn't have our starting unit out there. Tough to blame one player. They had the right call. Odd that they'd keep doing it just tryharding in preseason but it is what it is.


No pain, no gain.
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#56

This is what Poz said about those 2 situations: 

 

<p style="font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);">On second down, Fitzpatrick hit Enunwa for 26 yards (four YAC) when he got behind Posluszny and Smith. On the next play, Enunwa gained 43 yards (26 YAC) — Smith bit on Fitzpatrick’s eyes, who were on Powell; that step forward, allowed Enunwa to get behind Smith.

<p style="font-size:16px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51);">■ Posluszny on the two passes: “We were in our three-deep [coverage] and [Fitzpatrick] did a really good job of moving us off our landmarks with the way he was swinging his shoulders and looking off receivers. We’ll take a close look at it because it was the same thing twice.”


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#57
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2016, 08:40 AM by StitchJones.)

Not a lot we can say about those two back-to-back big plays by the jets. Not only were they big gains back-to-back, but it was the same exact play twice in a row! Ironicaly, we've seen other teams beat us with that same play multiple times in the past. Our linebackers are so keen on playing the run and 'moving up' that we get burned. The fact that we had a rookie playing deep was just asking for it too.

 

This may be a weakness of this type defense we run; but if so, it needs to be addressed and right now since, as I've already said, we've been burned this way too many time before.


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#58

I've analyzed Gus enough thanks.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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#59

Quote:The two big completions to Quincy Enunya took advantage of that soft spot in the middle behind the LBs. 

 

We've seen teams attack this scheme there before, and we'll see it again. It's been blueprinted and several teams did the same thing to the 'hawks last year as it is a weakness of this style of defense. 

 

Determining who was responsible can get tricky at times since we don't always know where the "handoff" point exists from LB to safety in coverage.  Nonetheless - it appears Poz and Telvin each failed to drop back far enough in these back to back plays. Certainly an alert FS may have helped.  I'll let you guys haggle about it.

 

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its the linebackers not understanding their assignments 

"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"
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#60
(This post was last modified: 08-13-2016, 10:22 AM by diamondjag28.)

They wont be able to keep myles off the field bc he can do things those other lbs cant. I see him starting really early
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