Everyone has to be offended by something now a days.  I think Manziel, Tebow, Mariota, etc...would have something to say about that.

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Ok, well lets label him as "One Dimensional" from now on.

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I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.

Some context would help.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...se-of-race

 

People think, 'Oh, he's a black quarterback, he must be dual-threat.' People throw around that word all the time. It's lazy," Watson told Bleacher Report. "The one thing I learned early on as a football player is people have their opinions, and I can't change them. But I can show them what they're missing. People have assumed that I have to run the ball before I can throw it most all of my career, all the way back before high school. It's a stereotype put on me for a long time because I'm African-American and I'm a dual-threat quarterback."
 
Watson, a junior who will decide at season's end whether to apply for early draft eligibility, was a Heisman Trophy finalist last year, and an NFL quarterbacks coach said in January that he has the potential to be drafted No. 1 overall.
 
However, NFL Media analyst and former NFL scout Bucky Brooks says Watson has reason to be concerned about being referred to as a dual-threat QB.
 
"Whenever you hear that dual-threat phrase, the perception is their legs are a bigger threat than their arm," Brooks said. "So it diminishes their standing as far as how they are viewed as a pro prospect. Guys like Deshaun Watson and some other quarterbacks have to fight against that stereotype to prove to others that they're worthy of being a franchise quarterback."
 
Watson called the dual-threat label a "code word."
 
While Watson is an accomplished rusher (1,105 yards with 12 touchdowns) last year, his effectiveness as a passer is undeniable. He completed nearly 68 percent of his passes for 4,104 yards, and shredded two of the top three defenses in college football -- Boston College and Alabama -- for more than 400 passing yards each.

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I don't think he is wrong either. Would be no different than a white receiver always being labeled a "possession receiver" simply because he is white.

 

Or McCaffrey being compared to Gerhart on this message board just because they are both white and went to the same school. Despite being different types of players.

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Except that not all white receivers are labeled possession receivers, just like all black qb's aren't dual threats.

 

He rushed for over 1000 yards and passed for over 4000, he's the epitome of a dual threat quarterback.  He does two things, and he does them really well. 

 

Edit:  As far as his legs being bigger than his arm, I'm not so sure he has that perception.  Most people are well aware he is the best quarterback coming out of college this year.

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Except that not all white receivers are labeled possession receivers, just like all black qb's aren't dual threats.

 

He rushed for over 1000 yards and passed for over 4000, he's the epitome of a dual threat quarterback.  He does two things, and he does them really well. 

 

Edit:  As far as his legs being bigger than his arm, I'm not so sure he has that perception.  Most people are well aware he is the best quarterback coming out of college this year.

 

I think most people do see him as the top QB for next year. But Bucky Brooks seems to agree with him. And he was an NFL scout and works for the NFL now.

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I'm not sure how Bucky Brooks having that opinion is supposed to sway how I feel.  One guys opinion doesn't make it true.

 

I believe most players that are 'dual threat' quarterbacks are scared of that mostly because the NFL is more looking for the prototypical quarterback, stand in the pocket, throw down field.  There have been dual threat quarterbacks in the NFL that have adjusted their game to fit.  If you're good enough, you will do it.  Cam Newton is a great example....he's still scary with his legs, but can stand in the pocket and throw down field. 

 

The problem with most dual threat quarterbacks is they don't have the arm or mechanics to get it done.  Watson is one of those I think will.

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I think most people do see him as the top QB for next year. But Bucky Brooks seems to agree with him. And he was an NFL scout and works for the NFL now.

Gene Smith worked in the NFL too, as a GM no less.

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No one called Byron Leftwich a dual threat qb. He must have secretly been white...

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Watson is a dual threat QB whether he likes the label or not. He's a really good one too.

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This is a classic example of a black man caught up in ethnic Gnosticism. He's not labeled a dual threat QB because he is black. He is labeled a dual threat for the same reason Tate Martell is. It is because he is athletic.

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I think Bucky's comments are stupid.  NFL scouts will determine if a guy is a franchise QB based on their own review and analysis, not based on what a bunch of clowns in the media or on internet message boards call somebody.  If that were the case, we should all start calling whoever the top LT in next years draft is a slow-footed future backup guard with no punch!  Maybe it'll stick and we'll get a steal!

 

But if this gives Deshaun a reason to put a chip on his shoulder, good for him.  Whatever gets you going.  Seems pretty dumb to me but whatever.

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No one called Byron Leftwich a dual threat qb. He must have secretly been white...

He was definitely a dual threat.. Duck n' Dive and The 5 yard backwards Self Sack..


Pure weapon..

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I don't think he is wrong either. Would be no different than a white receiver always being labeled a "possession receiver" simply because he is white.


Or McCaffrey being compared to Gerhart on this message board just because they are both white and went to the same school. Despite being different types of players.

You don't think Watson is a dual threat QB?

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I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.

I'm not sure how Bucky Brooks having that opinion is supposed to sway how I feel.  One guys opinion doesn't make it true.

 

I believe most players that are 'dual threat' quarterbacks are scared of that mostly because the NFL is more looking for the prototypical quarterback, stand in the pocket, throw down field.  There have been dual threat quarterbacks in the NFL that have adjusted their game to fit.  If you're good enough, you will do it.  Cam Newton is a great example....he's still scary with his legs, but can stand in the pocket and throw down field. 

 

The problem with most dual threat quarterbacks is they don't have the arm or mechanics to get it done.  Watson is one of those I think will.

 

You just pinpointed the reason why he doesn't want to be thought of as a dual threat QB - because of the perception ("stereotype") you just noted.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

You just pinpointed the reason why he doesn't want to be thought of as a dual threat QB - because of the perception ("stereotype") you just noted.

 

I probably should not be, but I am surprised most people did not understand this.

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It's not a stereotype when its true. 

 

Look at the NFL, have dual threat quarterbacks really worked in the long run?  If a guy can move and throw, he still has to adjust over time and stay in the pocket.  That speed wont last forever and you're susceptible to injury.

 

Explain to me how he's not a dual threat by rushing for over 1,000 and throwing for over 4,000.  Running backs aim for 1000 and qb's aim for 4000.  He does both. 

 

Tebow, Manziel, etc...didn't make it in the NFL because of arm strength. The logic behind this baffles me.  He's a dual threat, but people have to be offended.

 

Edit:  The whole "I'm not surprised most people don't understand this" is a great take when it comes to opinion.  Someone doesn't believe what I think so I'm going to try and put them down by saying they are ignorant!  Genius!

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How on earth isn't Watson considered a dual threat QB by everyone? He is an elite thrower and elite rusher. Two threats. Dual threat.


Where is the disconnect?

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In case anyone hasn't looked it up, Watson ran for 4,057 yards in high school. He ran for 1,105 yards last season. He will probably get around 1k this year as well. Him making this statement is moronic. It isn't because he is black. It is because he runs the ball so much. That is and isn't his fault. He has been in offenses that require that of him. But, stop with the race garbage and get some perspective. 

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