Gabbert is a bust... Alualu is a bust... But a Punter in the 3rd round.... that was his last hoorah

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I have bad news, I think it was J.J. Watt we passed on.

 

Watt went #11 right after we took Gabbert.  So yes, after we made the trade we missed Watt.  My point was that you could have had Kerrigan and a second round pick.  Could you have packaged our 49th pick with another couple and get Andy Dalton?  Maybe but even without that there were other quality players at positions of need that could have been taken with that pick.

 

Then again, GM Gene would have been the one making the pick so odds are would would just be talking about another bust.

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Watt went #11 right after we took Gabbert.  So yes, after we made the trade we missed Watt.  My point was that you could have had Kerrigan and a second round pick.  Could you have packaged our 49th pick with another couple and get Andy Dalton?  Maybe but even without that there were other quality players at positions of need that could have been taken with that pick.

 

Then again, GM Gene would have been the one making the pick so odds are would would just be talking about another bust.

 

Or the next year we skip the punter and draft Russell Wilson free of charge.

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Or the next year we skip the punter and draft Russell Wilson free of charge.

 

Yep, or even in the 2011 draft you could have taken Ryan Mallett all the way into the 3rd round.

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I'd say Gabbert because the position is so important. If Gabbert had turned into a star then Gene would probably still be here considering the overall team would be better.  The punter in the 3rd round makes you mad but we can't really say that Anger is a bust or even the fact that a third round pick can be justified as a bust. Not a lot of 3rd rounders have panned out in the NFL. Alualu is another possibility considering he was a first round pick and wasn't even graded that high on any other team that I recall. That pick had the entire country saying who?

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I'd say Gabbert because the position is so important. If Gabbert had turned into a star then Gene would probably still be here considering the overall team would be better.  The punter in the 3rd round makes you mad but we can't really say that Anger is a bust or even the fact that a third round pick can be justified as a bust. Not a lot of 3rd rounders have panned out in the NFL. Alualu is another possibility considering he was a first round pick and wasn't even graded that high on any other team that I recall. That pick had the entire country saying who?

 

 

I wont say Gabbert yet because he hasn't finished his 3rd year. Alualu is a really strong candidate but I say Anger only because it really summed up the incompetence that the GM had. He felt that he assembled a quality roster and the punter was the finishing touch.  

 

It angers me (pun intended) because I really believed in Gene and watched him set this franchise back even further. Ill give Caldwell and co. the same amount of trust and time but I will be more critical of them learning from previous experiences.  

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I wont say Gabbert yet because he hasn't finished his 3rd year. Alualu is a really strong candidate but I say Anger only because it really summed up the incompetence that the GM had. He felt that he assembled a quality roster and the punter was the finishing touch.  

 

It angers me (pun intended) because I really believed in Gene and watched him set this franchise back even further. Ill give Caldwell and co. the same amount of trust and time but I will be more critical of them learning from previous experiences.  

 

I can see your point for sure. I am more critical with Caldwell and their choices also. I wouldn't want to take a punter with my 3rd round pick regardless if I felt it was a finishing touch. Punters just aren't that highly sought after in the NFL. Regardless next season Jacksonville needs to be getting a QB.. Im pretty sure everyone can agree to that.

 No one knows for sure about the situation with Blaine Gabbert. But I will say this, the radio the other day claimed good QB's are c*cky/[BLEEP]'s in this league. Not guys who wanna "please" his coordinator or coaches. That made ponder about our QB and in my opinion it just shows me Gabbert doesn't have the guts to lead this team. 

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I can see your point for sure. I am more critical with Caldwell and their choices also. I wouldn't want to take a punter with my 3rd round pick regardless if I felt it was a finishing touch. Punters just aren't that highly sought after in the NFL. Regardless next season Jacksonville needs to be getting a QB.. Im pretty sure everyone can agree to that.

 No one knows for sure about the situation with Blaine Gabbert. But I will say this, the radio the other day claimed good QB's are c*cky/[BLEEP]'s in this league. Not guys who wanna "please" his coordinator or coaches. That made ponder about our QB and in my opinion it just shows me Gabbert doesn't have the guts to lead this team. 

You don't draft a punter period. You just don't. There is no need to draft a punter whatsoever. So many good players have come from the 3rd round or later (Geno Atkins and Russ Wilson to name 2). Why would you ever waste a draft pick on the most meaningless position in football. No one ever says "Man, that punter sure had a great day." because that means your offense was terrible and you have more important things to work on.

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You don't draft a punter period. You just don't. There is no need to draft a punter whatsoever. So many good players have come from the 3rd round or later (Geno Atkins and Russ Wilson to name 2). Why would you ever waste a draft pick on the most meaningless position in football. No one ever says "Man, that punter sure had a great day." because that means your offense was terrible and you have more important things to work on.

I agree. It really showed just how out of touch Gene Smith was regarding not only the quality of his assembled roster, but also what is fundamentally important to building an NFL team.

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I wonder what happened to him?

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I doubt he will get another football job.

 

Don't go that far.  Michael Lombardi got another shot at a front office.  If he can do it, anybody can.

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If Anger is not a pro-bowler this year then something is wrong. No punter will see more action that this man.

 

GENE'S BUSTS:

 

Gabbert

Alualu

Britton

Hart

D.Smith

Lane

McGee

Rackley

Isaac

Dillard

Z.Miller

Pendleton

 

I still hold hope for Branch as he was great in Clemson, then again so was Derrick Harvey at Florida...Ugh what a mess.

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Alualu was the worst pick, although Gabbert may go down as the biggest bust. Gabbert was highly regarded by many scouts and general managers. Alualu was a huge reach and his selection was typical of many of Smith's failed draft picks. Gene felt he was smarter than everyone and only 1 of his small college picks panned out- although that was a great pick in Shorts.

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I'd say Gabbert has probably been the biggest disappointment, and perhaps even bust given his performance so far. That said, he has at least had a few good games, there are plenty of guys that just haven't performed... ever.


Also, to people saying that Anger is a bust - just shut up. Anger is a reach, sure, but he hasn't underperformed and he isn't a bust (unless you have a weird definition of bust).

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If Anger is not a pro-bowler this year then something is wrong. No punter will see more action that this man.

 

GENE'S BUSTS:

 

Gabbert

Alualu

Britton

Hart

D.Smith

Lane

McGee

Rackley

Isaac

Dillard

Z.Miller

Pendleton

 

I still hold hope for Branch as he was great in Clemson, then again so was Derrick Harvey at Florida...Ugh what a mess.

 

I still have an issue with calling Lane, McGee, Isaac, Dillard, Miller and Pendleton bust, they where late round picks. Heck Lane contributed pretty good for a while especially for a 5th rounder.

 

I know it's pointless I just still wonder what people expect from late round picks, it's like the hype people put on Robinson coming out, he's 5th round pick for a reason lets temper our expectations.

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I'd say Gabbert has probably been the biggest disappointment, and perhaps even bust given his performance so far. That said, he has at least had a few good games, there are plenty of guys that just haven't performed... ever.


Also, to people saying that Anger is a bust - just shut up. Anger is a reach, sure, but he hasn't underperformed and he isn't a bust (unless you have a weird definition of bust).

 

Anger is a fine player, it's just impossible for any punter to ever play up to a 3rd round pick.

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Who was it? Gabbert? Branch? Alualu? All of the above?

 

It's Gabbert. This shouldn't even be up for debate. Anytime your 1ST RD choice at QB fails it's easily your biggest bust. Alualu was his biggest reach though. No denying that. But in terms of overall value and loss, Gabbert has been the most gut wrenching. We gave up a 2ND RD pick to move up six spots to get him at #10. That entire QB class is starting to look bad at this point. Ponder just got benched, Gabbert is done here in JAX, Locker might save face this year though if TEN continues to win football games. And it's possible that Newton could do the same, just depends on how and who you want to pin the blame on up there in CAR. TEN did it the right way though. They didn't throw Locker to the wolves in 2011. They let Hasselbeck start and in the long run, it seems to have paid off for them. And what's so bad is that, out of that class, he was the only other senior in RD1 with Ponder. Gabbert needed to sit out his first year. But that's not how the chips fell.

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Easily Gabbert. It's amazing that people here think he can still be a franchise QB. I let go of that illusion after his 2nd season. I hope Gene is taking orders at a fast food establishment here.

 

Yup I dont get it either, if Gabbert played for any of the other 31 teams people on this board would pick on him more then any other QB in the NFL even more so then Tebow.

 

I dont agree with Anger being a bust, he was a awful pick that high but not a bust.

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No one on Earth was surprised that the Jaguars went for Gabbert when he was there. That he hasn't worked out so far is unfortunate, but your top 10 QB not making it qualifies beyond all others.

The question is who is the biggest bust not the biggest reach 

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Gabbert, Alualu, and Anger. Gabbert does not need an explanation why. Alualu was picked while Dez Bryant was on the board, and yes I'm talking to you people called me a whiner and a part of the bib brigade when I said it was a terrible idea to picm Alualu over Bryant. There was so much dissing of Bryant on here about character, yet 2 drafts later Jags pick Blackmon who gets suspended before his second season even started lol. Bet people regret that now.

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