Here is a good discussion a few years back


https://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/to...ies/page-2


I watch a lot of Ala cause my sister and some of my family is Ala fans and they show every game here and Collins was pretty good in coverage and a playmaker. He gave up a play every now and then but what player dont? He was far from a liability and it wasnt a weaknesss compared to other safties

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Here is a good discussion a few years back

https://jungle.jaguars.com/index.php?/to...ies/page-2


I watch a lot of Ala cause my sister and some of my family is Ala fans and they show every game here and Collins was pretty good in coverage and a playmaker. He gave up a play every now and then but what player dont? He was far from a liability and it wasnt a weaknesss compared to other safties

 

Who says Ala? Is that a thing? 

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Who says Ala? Is that a thing?

its shorter than Bama? Is that your team or something? Isn't Ala. Short for Alabama?

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Apparently Williams has some off field stuff that could seriously drop him. Also, when I watch him on tape, he seems to struggle to bend at times. Barnett is by far the best edge bender in this class.

The off the field stuff is just about having a gun without a license. Williams probably has the best bend in the class outside of Garrett.

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Man Adams is not the best safety prospect since Berry. He isn't even the best safety prospect THIS YEAR.

Hey as a heads up Hooker said he's returning.

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Barnett has good speed off of the line but geez he's awful in run defense. I mean you can put a wr or te solo on him and not have to worry

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The off the field stuff is just about having a gun without a license. Williams probably has the best bend in the class outside of Garrett.

nah, more stuff that hasn't been made privy to the public.

Hey as a heads up Hooker said he's returning.

i know I'm just not buying it.

Barnett has good speed off of the line but geez he's awful in run defense. I mean you can put a wr or te solo on him and not have to worry

thats funny you say that because he was known as a run first player before this year. I don't see the deficiencies in the run game that you do.

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"A man with no sauce is lost.

<p style="text-align:center;">But that same man can get lost in the sauce."

nah, more stuff that hasn't been made privy to the public.


i know I'm just not buying it.


thats funny you say that because he was known as a run first player before this year. I don't see the deficiencies in the run game that you do.

Watching a bit of Barnett recently and plan to do more of it. But im with you. No idea how someone thinks he isnt good in run game.


Im falling in love with this guys tape. Big guy that can bend. Pretty impressive speed too. Seems farther along in run defense than Tim Williams but not quite the pass rusher, although not by that much.

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nah, more stuff that hasn't been made privy to the public.


i know I'm just not buying it.


thats funny you say that because he was known as a run first player before this year. I don't see the deficiencies in the run game that you do.

Oh right, where did you see that?

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Someplace in the draft we need to address the O-line.....that is a weakness that does not get enough attention.  Maybe Dave will fix part of this in free agency. 

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thats funny you say that because he was known as a run first player before this year. I don't see the deficiencies in the run game that you do.

Watch the south Carolina and bama game he gets blocked by OJ howard,Hayden Hurst,#3 on SoCar. Thats a TE,a pitcher,and a WR....weren't chips or chops it was him not being able to get off of his block. Watch those 2 games and he has maybe 2 tackles in the run game. Has like 4 sacks,a fumble and an interception but i never doubted his ability to rush the passer or be a freak. The dude is definitely big and holds his own in run block but he doesn't shed, also lost the edge on a reverse and a couple of read options. He definitely is a top 10 guy this year and the 3rd best DE by far just doesn't seem like a top 5 pick,to me.

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Oh right, where did you see that?

Charlie Campbell. Dude has been money on draft news the past few years.

Watch the south Carolina and bama game he gets blocked by OJ howard,Hayden Hurst,#3 on SoCar. Thats a TE,a pitcher,and a WR....weren't chips or chops it was him not being able to get off of his block. Watch those 2 games and he has maybe 2 tackles in the run game. Has like 4 sacks,a fumble and an interception but i never doubted his ability to rush the passer or be a freak. The dude is definitely big and holds his own in run block but he doesn't shed, also lost the edge on a reverse and a couple of read options. He definitely is a top 10 guy this year and the 3rd best DE by far just doesn't seem like a top 5 pick,to me.

Everybody has a few bad games.

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"A man with no sauce is lost.

<p style="text-align:center;">But that same man can get lost in the sauce."

OJ Howard blocks like a lineman to be fair. 

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nah, more stuff that hasn't been made privy to the public.

 

Calling BS on this.

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Charlie Campbell. Dude has been money on draft news the past few years.


Everybody has a few bad games.

Walter football is a joke. Campbell used to be good but has been pure click bait the last few years.

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Calling [BAD WORD REMOVED] on this.

Walter football is the source...

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Walter football is a joke. Campbell used to be good but has been pure click bait the last few years.

If you actually think that then you haven't even been paying attention to what he reports. He has been right plenty of times over the last 3 years, more so than anyone else in the media.

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"A man with no sauce is lost.

<p style="text-align:center;">But that same man can get lost in the sauce."

If you actually think that then you haven't even been paying attention to what he reports. He has been right plenty of times over the last 3 years, more so than anyone else in the media.

Walter Football is not reliable info...lol.

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Walter football is the source...

Oh, I know. Still gotta cut off the misinformation before it starts picking up, though.

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Walter Football is not reliable info...lol.

Charlie Campbell is.

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"A man with no sauce is lost.

<p style="text-align:center;">But that same man can get lost in the sauce."