I think 2018 is the year of the QB

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Yeah. With the new CBA and the limits on padded practices etc, it's hard enough to evaluate 3 Qbs. Much less, 5 or more.


I'd be happy seeing Allen, Bortles and an early or mid-round pick competing this summer. Finding a franchise QB doesn't really have a "shortcut." There are to many varying degrees of success and rate of player development.

You are right.


I still think it could be done if properly planned for and executed with the right people. Definitely would be interesting to see. You would have to bring in a couple extra coaches and wide receivers and rotate the Qbs in as many individual drills as you could while simultaneously working team drills.


Unrealistic, but possible.

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You could do a couple QBs a time like the Redskins did taking RG3 in the first and Cousins in the fourth. 

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You could do a couple QBs a time like the Redskins did taking RG3 in the first and Cousins in the fourth. 

 

This has worked out a couple of times for Washington, just not how they expected. Back in 1994 they drafted Heath Schuler with the 3rd overall pick and Gus Frerotte in the 7th round. Schuler was a bust and went on to succeed at his backup career, a U.S. Senator. Frerotte on the other hand, had a long career for several NFL teams and even made the Pro Bowl in 2007. So, at least for Washington, plan B has seemed to work out when selecting multiple QB's.

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So we're in agreement. Take Trubisky, Kizer, or Watson at 3 and then someone like Josh Allen early day 3. 

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I'm not against the strategy. I just don't like the QBs this year. If the majority of the board has issues with Blake's mechanics, I don't know why the board would get on board with any of these QBs who all have serious mechanics/accuracy issues. I would maybe consider Trubisky at the top of rd 2.

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So we're in agreement. Take Trubisky, Kizer, or Watson at 3 and then someone like Josh Allen early day 3. 

 

No. Trubisky needs to stay in school and continue on his progression. Right now, he isn't ready, but if he goes back and continues to improve, he'd be a real consideration in 2018. I wouldn't touch Kizer at all, in any round. He's garbage. I wouldn't even consider Watson until the 3rd round and even then, he probably wouldn't be my top rated player in that round. As for Allen, I'll be honest. I don't know enough about the kid to make a decision one way or another. If he does declare, I'll do what I can to try and scout him and make an evaluation. 

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Kizer is the only potential franchise QB. Watson certainly isn't. He is too inaccurate from the pocket. I'm also worried about Watson's size. I realize Jag fans want a QB. However, there isn't one worth taking with their first round pick. Maybe in the second round. 

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Kizer is the only potential franchise QB. Watson certainly isn't. He is too inaccurate from the pocket. I'm also worried about Watson's size. I realize Jag fans want a QB. However, there isn't one worth taking with their first round pick. Maybe in the second round. 

Why bother taking any QB if they don't have franchise potential? 

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Kizer is the only potential franchise QB. Watson certainly isn't. He is too inaccurate from the pocket. I'm also worried about Watson's size. I realize Jag fans want a QB. However, there isn't one worth taking with their first round pick. Maybe in the second round.

67% is inaccurate? Was on of the most accurate deep ball passers last year too.

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Well there was a long stretch where the Jags didn't draft a QB and it definitely caught up with us.  They should probably be drafting a QB every year as long as the current starter hasn't ascended to elite status in the league and even then it should still be every 2 years.

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I wish Kizer had one more season of experience. I think he goes back to Notre Dame, polishes his game, and enters 2018 draft as a near can't-miss prospect. He has some amazing ability. Just needs a bit more learning.

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Nope, go after a veteran. I'm tired of waiting for QBs now, and I think the staff is as well.

 

Tyrod Taylor is a guy the team will get behind. They'll play hard for a guy who earned his right to start and wasn't just handed the job.

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THERE IS A SKELETON INSIDE OF YOU.

 

RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

67% is inaccurate? Was on of the most accurate deep ball passers last year too.

Clemson has a gimmick offense. Its the same offense that made Sammy Watkins look like a superstar. They throw a ton of screens and balls at or behind the line of scrimmage and then occasional deep shots off of that. Even Tajh Boyd was completing close to 70% in this offense.


In the intermediate passes and NFL throws, Watson does have mechanical and accuracy issues. He's a good player that is worth trying to develop, but the odds are that he is more likely to be a bust than a franchise QB.

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I wish Kizer had one more season of experience. I think he goes back to Notre Dame, polishes his game, and enters 2018 draft as a near can't-miss prospect. He has some amazing ability. Just needs a bit more learning.

He declared for the draft yesterday. I like Kizer too. He has the most talent and physical ability of any QB in this class.

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I must have missed that he declared. Hmm. Whichever team takes him had better be patient. He'd benefit from going to a team with an established vet.

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Luke Falk - 2018

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No.  Just no.  Not this year.

 

If not now, then when? Frankly I'm not sold on the top of next year's class either except for Sam Darnold and maybe Josh Allen and Darnold is probably going to be the #1 pick. Browning's arm disqualifies him from being anything more than a clipboard holder, Rosen still has major question marks and has really yet to live up to his billing as a generational prospect, and Jackson is a huge project.

 

I'd have to consider a guy if Garret and Allen are gone and maybe a trade down with the Jets or Bears in that instance if they are sold on one of the top QB prospects. I don't think we NEED a QB with the 1st pick, but the sit & wait approach for next year's so-called good class doesn't cut it with me.

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67% is inaccurate? Was on of the most accurate deep ball passers last year too.

 

Their offense is mostly a lot of short passes so I don't buy the completion percentage. On the intermediate and longer throws he's very hot/cold(At least this year) and he doesn't read the field all that well either. A lot of his interceptions have come from not anticipating the safety sliding over on him on longer passes and locking his eyes on one receiver which tips the defense off to where the ball is going. To his credit he finished off the year stronger in those area's, but he's still nothing I'd want at #3.

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If not now, then when? Frankly I'm not sold on the top of next year's class either except for Sam Darnold and maybe Josh Allen and Darnold is probably going to be the #1 pick. Browning's arm disqualifies him from being anything more than a clipboard holder, Rosen still has major question marks and has really yet to live up to his billing as a generational prospect, and Jackson is a huge project.

 

I'd have to consider a guy if Garret and Allen are gone and maybe a trade down with the Jets or Bears in that instance if they are sold on one of the top QB prospects. I don't think we NEED a QB with the 1st pick, but the sit & wait approach for next year's so-called good class doesn't cut it with me.

 

 

You never draft strictly for need. When you do, you reach and that can set your franchise back years when things don't work out. This is especially true at the QB spot. I know it's hard, but we have to be smart and take the right guy. Some years, there just isn't a "right guy" that falls to you in the draft. 

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