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Fournette, Lamp, Sheehan - here's how

#21

Even if my only OL need was at tackle I'd still rather have Lamp play tackle for me than Robinson...and I've started to warm up to Robinson a little but Lamp is > Robinson at all 5 OL positions to me. 


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#22

What's about OT/G Dion Dawkins in the 2nd if Lamp is gone?
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#23

Quote:What's about OT/G Dion Dawkins in the 2nd if Lamp is gone?


I think it'll come down to Dawkins or Feeney. I think Feeney is the better player but Dawkins fits our blocking scheme better.
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#24

Quote:I think it'll come down to Dawkins or Feeney. I think Feeney is the better player but Dawkins fits our blocking scheme better.
We have a blocking scheme????  If Dawkins fits it, perhaps he's not the guy. 

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#25

Quote:We have a blocking scheme????  If Dawkins fits it, perhaps he's not the guy. 
 

 

I think he's saying that Dawkins better fits the scheme we feel Coughlin and Marrone are installing.


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#26

Quote:I think he's saying that Dawkins better fits the scheme we feel Coughlin and Marrone are installing.


Correct. Poorly worded on my part.
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#27

Quote:Very rarely. He was a wide receiver in all but name. Played a little bit of H back catching out of the backfield.


That's what I thought. To me he's more of a project than shaheen. For me I feel like our draft is going to RB, OL, and TE in some order.
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#28

Quote:Even if my only OL need was at tackle I'd still rather have Lamp play tackle for me than Robinson...and I've started to warm up to Robinson a little but Lamp is > Robinson at all 5 OL positions to me.


I feel the same way. Do you think the teams hungry for a QB to groom for a year like Arizona and New Orleans would be aggressive enough to jump the jets to get their guy or will they just wait to see if one falls? I'd add KC to that list but I feel they're too far back to make a jump to the top 5.
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#29

Quote:That's what I thought. To me he's more of a project than shaheen. For me I feel like our draft is going to RB, OL, and TE in some order.


The thing with Bucky is you very rarely see a guy his size, with that combo of athleticism and ball skills (even though he drops a bit too much). He might never be a good blocker but could be elite as a receiver.
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#30

Quote:I feel the same way. Do you think the teams hungry for a QB to groom for a year like Arizona and New Orleans would be aggressive enough to jump the jets to get their guy or will they just wait to see if one falls? I'd add KC to that list but I feel they're too far back to make a jump to the top 5.


It's possible one of them wants to jump up if they really like their guy but we need to hope Trubisky continues to impress teams. If Cleveland, Arizona, and NO all want him then we may get a phone call with a legit offer. Who knows maybe the Jets are willing to give us a late pick to move up to 4 to ensure they get him.
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#31

Quote:I feel the same way. Do you think the teams hungry for a QB to groom for a year like Arizona and New Orleans would be aggressive enough to jump the jets to get their guy or will they just wait to see if one falls? I'd add KC to that list but I feel they're too far back to make a jump to the top 5.
I think there's a slim chance someone jumps the Jets to get a QB, but if they do I think it's far more likely they would jump to 5 with the Titans and then the rich get richer. 

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#32

Quote:That's what I thought. To me he's more of a project than shaheen. For me I feel like our draft is going to RB, OL, and TE in some order.


Speaking of RB, if they pass on Fournette in the 1st, what about Kamara in the 2nd? I think he will be there, but I'd pass for an OG or TE. I almost feel like if they don't take Fournette in the 1st, RB will fall past round 3.


It might go:

1. DE/DT (Thomas or Allen)

2. OG

3. TE

And we are pretty much stuck with Yeldon & Ivory again in 2017. That's why I think we take Fournette in the 1st, hopefully after trading down slightly.
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#33

Quote:The thing with Bucky is you very rarely see a guy his size, with that combo of athleticism and ball skills (even though he drops a bit too much). He might never be a good blocker but could be elite as a receiver.
 

 

Yeah, but I still see him developing into a fine blocker with that frame of his. He's really just raw in the blocking department.


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#34

Quote:Speaking of RB, if they pass on Fournette in the 1st, what about Kamara in the 2nd? I think he will be there, but I'd pass for an OG or TE. I almost feel like if they don't take Fournette in the 1st, RB will fall past round 3.


It might go:

1. DE/DT (Thomas or Allen)

2. OG

3. TE

And we are pretty much stuck with Yeldon & Ivory again in 2017. That's why I think we take Fournette in the 1st, hopefully after trading down slightly.
 

 

Or it could even go...


 

1. DE/DT


2. OG


3. CB or QB


4. RB


5. TE


 

Either way, the top of round 4 just might be where we land our RB, and I still think Hunt and a few others will be there. Plus keep in mind there may be good RBs out there we haven't even heard of. Look at Em'Diggy's thread with his RB rankings. He's listing a ton of guys I never even heard of over most of the RB names we've been talking about.



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#35

Following your format, here’s what I came up with. Be sure to get a good look at the profile for my 3<sup>rd</sup> round G… I took him over C/G Pat Elflein.


  1. Browns - DE Myles Garrett

  2. 49ers - FS Malik Hooker

  3. Bears - DE Solomon Thomas

  4. Jaguars - DT Jonathan Allen

  5. Titans - SS Jamal Adams

  6. Jets - CB Marshon Lattimore

  7. Chargers - WR Corey Davis

  8. Panthers - RB Leonard Fournette

  9. Bengals - DE Derek Barnett

  10. Bills - TE OJ Howard

  11. Saints - RB Christian McCaffery

  12. Browns - CB Gareon Conley 

  13. Cards - LB Reuben Foster

  14. Eagles - CB Marlon Humphrey

  15. Colts - OLB Takkarist McKinley

  16. Ravens - WR Mike Williams

  17. Redskins - DE Haason Reddick

  18. Titans - CB Tre'Davious White

  19. Bucs - DE Taco Charlton

  20. Broncos - LT Ryan Ramczyk

  21. Lions - DT Malik McDowell

  22. Dolphins - S Jabrill Peppers

  23. Giants - LT Garrett Bolles

  24. Raiders - RB Dalvin Cook

  25. Texans - QB Deshone Kizer

  26. Seahawks - G Forrest Lamp

  27. Chiefs - WR John Ross

  28. Cowboys - DE Charles Harris

  29. Packers - CB Kevin King

  30. Steelers - LB TJ Watt

  31. Falcons - OL Cam Robinson

  32. Saints - LB Zach Cunningham

  33. Browns – QB Mitch Trubisky

  34. 49ers – QB DeShaun Watson

  35. Jaguars – TE David Njoku

  36. Bears – WR JuJu Smith-Schuster

  37. Rams – S <strong>Obi Melifonwu
    </strong>


  38. Chargers– CB Chidobe Awuzie

  39. Jets – QB Patrick Mahomes

  40. Panthers – TE Evan Engram

  41. Bengals – RB Alvin Kamara

  42. Saints – DE Carl Lawson

  43. Eagles – CB Fabian Moreau

  44. Bills – CB Quincy Wilson

  45. Cards – G Dan Feeney

  46. Colts – NT Caleb Brantley

  47. Ravens – MLB <strong>Raekwon McMillan
    </strong>


  48. Vikings – OL Dion Dawkins


  49. Redskins – FS Budda Baker


  50. Bucs – RT Taylor Moton


  51. Broncos – TE Jordan Leggett


  52. Browns – FS Marcus Williams


  53. Lions – RB Jeremy McNichols


  54. Dolphins – DL DeMarcus Walker


  55. Giants – OLB Tim Williams


  56. Raiders – MLB Jarrod Davis


  57. Texans – NT Montavious Adams


  58. Seahawks – CB Cordrea Tankersley


  59. Chiefs – RB Curtis Samuel


  60. Cowboys – SS Josh Jones


  61. Packers – OLB Tarell Basham


  62. Steelers – CB Desmond King


  63. Falcons – CB Adoree Jackson


  64. Panthers – RT Roderick Johnson


  65. Browns – WR Zay Jones


  66. 49ers – LB Ryan Anderson
    (OTTO)


  67. Bears – QB Davis Webb


  68. Jaguars – G Dorian Johnson - http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/d...id=2557857


Pick up a RB in round 4




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#36

Quote:Following your format, here’s what I came up with. Be sure to get a good look at the profile for my 3<sup>rd</sup> round G… I took him over C/G Pat Elflein.


  1. Browns - Myles Garrett

  2. 49ers - Malik Hooker

  3. Bears - Solomon Thomas

  4. Jaguars - Jonathan Allen

  5. Titans - Jamal Adams

  6. Jets - Marshon Lattimore

  7. Chargers - WR Corey Davis

  8. Panthers - RB Leonard Fournette

  9. Bengals - DE Derek Barnett

  10. Bills - TE OJ Howard

  11. Saints - RB Christian McCaffery

  12. Browns - CB Gareon Conley 

  13. Cards - LB Reuben Foster

  14. Eagles - CB Marlon Humphrey

  15. Colts - OLB Takkarist McKinley

  16. Ravens - WR Mike Williams

  17. Redskins - DE Haason Reddick

  18. Titans - CB Tre'Davious White

  19. Bucs - DE Taco Charlton

  20. Broncos - LT Ryan Ramczyk

  21. Lions - DT Malik McDowell

  22. Dolphins - S Jabrill Peppers

  23. Giants - LT Garrett Bolles

  24. Raiders - RB Dalvin Cook

  25. Texans - QB Deshone Kizer

  26. Seahawks - G Forrest Lamp

  27. Chiefs - WR John Ross

  28. Cowboys - DE Charles Harris

  29. Packers - CB Kevin King

  30. Steelers - LB TJ Watt

  31. Falcons - OL Cam Robinson

  32. Saints - LB Zach Cunningham

  33. Browns – QB Mitch Trubisky

  34. 49ers – QB DeShaun Watson

  35. Jaguars – TE David Njoku

  36. Bears – WR JuJu Smith-Schuster

  37. Rams – S <strong>Obi Melifonwu
    </strong>


  38. Chargers– CB Chidobe Awuzie

  39. Jets – QB Patrick Mahomes

  40. Panthers – TE Evan Engram

  41. Bengals – RB Alvin Kamara

  42. Saints – DE Carl Lawson

  43. Eagles – CB Fabian Moreau

  44. Bills – CB Quincy Wilson

  45. Cards – G Dan Feeney

  46. Colts – NT Caleb Brantley

  47. Ravens – MLB <strong>Raekwon McMillan
    </strong>


  48. Vikings – OL Dion Dawkins


  49. Redskins – FS Budda Baker


  50. Bucs – RT Taylor Moton


  51. Broncos – TE Jordan Leggett


  52. Browns – FS Marcus Williams


  53. Lions – RB Jeremy McNichols


  54. Dolphins – DL DeMarcus Walker


  55. Giants – OLB Tim Williams


  56. Raiders – MLB Jarrod Davis


  57. Texans – NT Montavious Adams


  58. Seahawks – CB Cordrea Tankersley


  59. Chiefs – RB Curtis Samuel


  60. Cowboys – SS Josh Jones


  61. Packers – OLB Tarell Basham


  62. Steelers – CB Desmond King


  63. Falcons – CB Adoree Jackson


  64. Panthers – RT Roderick Johnson


  65. Browns – WR Zay Jones


  66. 49ers – LB Ryan Anderson
    (OTTO)


  67. Bears – QB Davis Webb


  68. Jaguars – G Dorian Johnson - http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/d...id=2557857


Pick up a RB in round 4
 

 

No RB and a sub par OG like Johnson. I'd hate that draft. I am not a fan of Dorian Johnson.

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#37

Quote:No RB and a sub par OG like Johnson. I'd hate that draft. I am not a fan of Dorian Johnson.
 

 

Why not? He's a powerful, road grading immediate starter at G. He's perfect for our run game, and we can coach up his footwork in pass protection. It's worth the step-down between Feeney/Dawkins and Johnson in order to get Njoku.


 

At RB I'm convinced we'll still have some intriguing options in round four. Even if Ivory remains the starter, the guy we get in round four will help shape the offense.


 

That said, had we instead gone Dawkins or Feeney at #35, I'm probably looking at Bucky Hodges with this pick.


 

It's really, would you rather have Njoku and Johnson ... or Dawkins and Hodges ... since I'd pick Dawkins over Feeney.


 

IMO... nothing wrong with Hodges as he's a gifted athlete and receiver... but Njoku is on another level as a playmaker and is already a decent blocker in his own right where Holdges is just starting to learn how to block. And don't give me Kittle because Njoku is miles and miles better than Kittle. I was surprised as anyone to see Njoku make it to #35, but specific team needs kept pushing him down. He's not there because he lacks talent in any way... he's just not the #1 TE... Howard is.



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#38

Allen

Njoku

Johnson


Would be a great haul. I'm not convinced we need a RB early. O-line needs to get fixed first.
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#39

Quote:Why not? He's a powerful, road grading immediate starter at G. He's perfect for our run game, and we can coach up his footwork in pass protection.
It's worth the step-down between Feeney/Dawkins and Johnson in order to get Njoku.


 

At RB I'm convinced we'll still have some intriguing options in round four. Even if Ivory remains the starter, the guy we get in round four will help shape the offense.


 

That said, had we instead gone Dawkins or Feeney at #35, I'm probably looking at Bucky Hodges with this pick.


 

It's really, would you rather have Njoku and Johnson ... or Dawkins and Hodges ... since I'd pick Dawkins over Feeney.


 

IMO... nothing wrong with Hodges as he's a gifted athlete and receiver... but Njoku is on another level as a playmaker and is already a decent blocker in his own right where Holdges is just starting to learn how to block. And don't give me Kittle because Njoku is miles and miles better than Kittle. I was surprised as anyone to see Njoku make it to #35, but specific team needs kept pushing him down. He's not there because he lacks talent in any way... he's just not the #1 TE... Howard is.
 

I see no way Njoku falls to #35 and I'd still rather have Feeney/Dawkins in round 2, a RB in round 3 and a TE like Butt, Kittle or Saubert in round 4. Hodges drops way too many passes for my taste. I have a major bias against TE's with suspect hands.

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#40

Quote:Would be a great haul. I'm not convinced we need a RB early. O-line needs to get fixed first.
 

I agree. I've been saying this for months.  I'd absolutely wait till the 3rd or 4th round to select a back in this draft.


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