I'll question everything if the pick AT FOUR isn't fournette... if we trade back then obviously that changes.. but Fournette legit right away makes our offense better.  Instantly

Agreed. Of course it's a more sexy, exciting pick..But in this case it fits a need. IF the line can open a few holes, let the bull run, work the clock, let BB get comfortable and not have to pass 3 out of 4 downs and what should be atop 5 D do what's needed.

Get ready for 6-3 wins..lol. But what the piss. A win is a win. Sure, offense sells tix. But watching a D destroy an offense does cause a certain rise in the Levi's.

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I'll question everything if the pick AT FOUR isn't fournette... if we trade back then obviously that changes.. but Fournette legit right away makes our offense better.  Instantly

Yup if we stay at 4 Fournette should be the pick, if we drop to 12 then it could be a lot of players, Watson, Cook, Barnett, Howard, Lamp, McCaffrey or Cam Robinson

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Why does everyone want Fournette? I haven't been as immersed in the draft this year like I usually am. If he isn't the next Adrian Peterson then I'm not understanding why we want RB at 4?

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Why does everyone want Fournette? I haven't been as immersed in the draft this year like I usually am. If he isn't the next Adrian Peterson then I'm not understanding why we want RB at 4?

Because he might be the next Adrian Peterson 

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Because he might be the next Adrian Peterson

But does his tape show that? I haven't seen much so that's a real question. If he looks like AP then I'll take your word for it

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Why does everyone want Fournette? I haven't been as immersed in the draft this year like I usually am. If he isn't the next Adrian Peterson then I'm not understanding why we want RB at 4?

That's like saying if they take a DE and he's not the next JJ Watt, why would they want him.


The team needs a running game. Period. A struggling QB. A strong D. Need an established ground game.

Nothing is guaranteed. For every Elliot there are 10 Trent Richarsons. But this guy is a very high ranked player. So, it fits a need and hope it's a home run...or at least a triple.

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That's like saying if they take a DE and he's not the next JJ Watt, why would they want him.


The team needs a running game. Period. A struggling QB. A strong D. Need an established ground game.

Nothing is guaranteed. For every Elliot there are 10 Trent Richarsons. But this guy is a very high ranked player. So, it fits a need and hope it's a home run...or at least a triple.

No that is not the same. Give me a Chandler Jones over an Ezekiel Elliot any day of the week. A solid pass rusher has way more value that a good running back. Anybody will tell you that. He has to be a special RB to go at 4. Same as WR they need to be special. If they ain't Adrian Peterson or Calvin Johnson don't draft a RB or WR that high.


So back to my question: is this guy the next AP or better? I don't know so I'm asking you guys.

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But does his tape show that? I haven't seen much so that's a real question. If he looks like AP then I'll take your word for it

The guy on radio said it best, he is Eddie George with speed, Eddie George was a heck of a player

 

In 3 years Fournette was dominate in almost every game he played, he avg 140 ypg the last 2 years 

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It's probably just diarrhea buddy boyo.

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The guy on radio said it best, he is Eddie George with speed, Eddie George was a heck of a player


In 3 years Fournette was dominate in almost every game he played, he avg 140 ypg the last 2 years

Well if he's that good I'll take your word for it. I'm not a fan of drafting RB top 5 but if y'all say he that good then it's whatever. I saw he ran. 4.5 at the combine and that kind of killed it for me but I haven't studied that guy just saw the games he played last season. I saw a guy that was just bigger and better than the other players but I'm not sure if that means he will dominate in the NFL.


But I digress. I just didn't watch a lot this offseason so I'm shooting in the dark here. This year will be more of looking at the guys we draft after we pick them so I know who's on the team.

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I don't get that feeling or vibe at all. There's not enough confidence in this year's QB class to justify dropping Bortles who is entering his fourth year for a fresh faced rookie at the same position. Doesn't make much sense at all if you ask me. 

 

They could be trying to call out to a few teams tomorrow night to get out of that spot and to add more picks to bolster the offensive line some more on day two but that's about it. And the only team that should be desperate enough to want to come back up into the top five is Cleveland from twelve if they really feel Trubisky is worth the effort. 

 

But I see the pick being Fournette now at this point. With the hopes of them maybe addressing the LG/RG positions on day two and day three. Coughlin has an eye for lineman on both sides of the football. He'll find a tough guy later on in this draft that could end up being another Meester or Linder on this team. Mark my words on that. 

 

If Fournette ends up in San Francisco then it's either Solomon Thomas or Johnathan Allen at the fourth overall selection. And I think the intent for Allen will be that he plays inside, not outside, but inside with Jackson and he sometimes might see some action off the edge depending on the down and distance. Allen isn't a bad player. He was productive at Alabama. I think he has Gerald McCoy potential as an inside rusher because of his size and height. 

 

We passed on Leonard Williams for Fowler Jr. and that turned out being a mistake. Passing on Allen in the event Fournette is off the board will be yet another mistake. 

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No that is not the same. Give me a Chandler Jones over an Ezekiel Elliot any day of the week. A solid pass rusher has way more value that a good running back. Anybody will tell you that. He has to be a special RB to go at 4. Same as WR they need to be special. If they ain't Adrian Peterson or Calvin Johnson don't draft a RB or WR that high.


So back to my question: is this guy the next AP or better? I don't know so I'm asking you guys.

How do you know if they AP or Megatron, unless you draft them... Scared money don't make no money... Fournette ceiling is high .. Go pull up his highlights..

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Why does everyone want Fournette? I haven't been as immersed in the draft this year like I usually am. If he isn't the next Adrian Peterson then I'm not understanding why we want RB at 4?

If you could build a RB from scratch, it would look very similar to Fournette.


You see on tape what a specimen he is but besides being big and fast, he's tough and knows how to utilie his size.


I mostly think the Sports Science stuff is garbage but they did one on LF and his cutting ability matched Petersons and what I thought was most interesting was that he hits 15 (or 16) mph in 4 steps which matched Jamal Charles when he was in his prime. You shouldn't be that explosive when you're 6 feet 235 lbs.

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The entire draft feels that way to me.

 

Personally, I just can't excited about Fournette and am hoping that we somehow wind up with Cook or McCaffrey.

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Because he might be the next Adrian Peterson 

 

no one is the next AP... including Fournette.. but he is 100% a bell cow with elite strength, great speed for size, and gives us an identity right away... I think he is probably better than ezekial elliot

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Well if he's that good I'll take your word for it. I'm not a fan of drafting RB top 5 but if y'all say he that good then it's whatever. I saw he ran. 4.5 at the combine and that kind of killed it for me but I haven't studied that guy just saw the games he played last season. I saw a guy that was just bigger and better than the other players but I'm not sure if that means he will dominate in the NFL.


But I digress. I just didn't watch a lot this offseason so I'm shooting in the dark here. This year will be more of looking at the guys we draft after we pick them so I know who's on the team.

 

he ran a 4.51 at like 240 pounds... you realize how good that is?

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Well, the Eddie George comparison is certainly interesting and gives me, something of a Fournette doubter, a little bit of hope. 

 

LF as Eddie George redux? I can see that.....

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the pick is fournette . book it

If we stay at 4, he's the pick.  It's the one that makes the most sense at this point. 

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he ran a 4.51 at like 240 pounds... you realize how good that is?

 

"killed it" in a good way

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he ran a 4.51 at like 240 pounds... you realize how good that is?

Yeah, I don't get this notion that he's slow.  He and Dalvin Cook are pretty close in the speed department, but at 240 lbs, he's a freight train flying down the tracks in comparison to Cook.  My concern with Fournette is longevity, although I wouldn't let that dictate whether I'd draft him or not.  It's about what he can do right now in this offense.  Drafting him would give this team an opportunity to pair an actual running game with our passing attack, and it would either help Bortles succeed, or completely expose him as the weakest link.

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