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Franchise QB Comparables
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The problem I have with Bortles is that true franchise QB's can do more with less. We've thrown together one of the most stacked rosters for this man and he still hasn't given us winning results. Its scary to think you have a QB who claims he isn't a natural thrower of the football and just missing one offseason practicing mechanics turned him into the puddle of nothing we saw in 2016.
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Quote:The problem I have with Bortles is that true franchise QB's can do more with less. We've thrown together one of the most stacked rosters for this man and he still hasn't given us winning results. Its scary to think you have a QB who claims he isn't a natural thrower of the football and just missing one offseason practicing mechanics turned him into the puddle of nothing we saw in 2016.So do you feel the same way about Philip Rivers who only won two more games than Blake Bortles the last two season? Bottom line is no quarterback can win games by themselves and when Philip Rivers was at his best he had a actual team around him. So what I'm telling you is Blake needs to same thing just like every other quarterback in the NFL. ![]() Quote:Jags 02 that makes zero sense. To even compare a qb who has never reached 500 or won the division to super bowl rings. Says you know zero about qbs. I remember back in the day people saying "oh, you can't compare Brunell to Trent Dilfer... Dilfer has a ring." Sorry, but I still say Brunell was flat out the better QB. Also, I was never talking greater QB overall where you're looking at Eli in his prime. I'm talking about the QB that Eli has become over the past few years compared to the QB play we saw out of Blake in 2015. The potential at least is there for Blake to flat out be better than Eli this season. But no, I'm certainly not among those who claim Eli Manning is better than Dan Marino just because Dan doesn't have rings.
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Quote:Wasn't going from 11 TD passes thrown to 35 TDs one of the best turnarounds in NFL history?! Please. 2016 says hello. How many wins did he get us in 2015? Oh that's right 5. His play lost us games sure some of it was on the defense but he hasn't improved in the way Eli did. Quote:So do you feel the same way about Philip Rivers who only won two more games than Blake Bortles the last two season? Bottom line is no quarterback can win games by themselves and when Philip Rivers was at his best he had a actual team around him. So what I'm telling you is Blake needs to same thing just like every other quarterback in the NFL. The Chargers lost Woodhead, Verrett, Keenan Allen, Te'o and whoever else due to injuries. All starters. Not a good comparison. Their roster was dropping like flies this past season. Their problem wasn't Rivers but injuries. Where Bortles and his mechanics were causing defenders to just sit on routes waiting for that wind up, inaccuracy or just missing open guys. I think Bortles can improve but to the extent that he'll ever be a franchise QB? I'm not sold just yet. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
What part of he is not a franchise qb do people not get. And tom is alowing this to happen to show khan he is not. or be proven wrong.
How can anyone call Bortles anything but a journeyman when he has not won more then 5 games a season. He has what 12 wins and 36 loses. And comparing him to others who won more in one season then blake has.
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#Gojags Quote:What part of he is not a franchise qb do people not get. And tom is alowing this to happen to show khan he is not. or be proven wrong. And here I was thinking it was a team sport. Thanks for setting me straight and letting us all know that our 12 and 36 record since Bortles took over is only on him even though before he got here our record was similar, but I'm sure that was his fault too some how.
Quote:And here I was thinking it was a team sport. Thanks for setting me straight and letting us all know that our 12 and 36 record since Bortles took over is only on him even though before he got here our record was similar, but I'm sure that was his fault too some how.Here is the problem though. Khan is a car parts guy not a football guy. So was sold on potential and here was to blame and there was to blame. At the end of the day. Tom is doing what any new boss would do. Prove it to me or it is all talk. So tom is getting the best possible team around him to prove it is Blakes fault or isn't. Business 101 And also in a business sense. Tells Khan who is trustworthy and who is trying to give him sales pitches. See Tom is not apart of Hurns or Robinson or Lee. And is bringing in competition to put the best receivers together for Blake to succeed. Or to sink. So no more excuses. And reason Cruz is coming in and West Brook was drafted. And while it is a team sport. Blake is the Queen piece or most powerful. So if Blake fails so do the jags.
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#Gojags We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Here is the problem though. Khan is a car parts guy not a football guy. So was sold on potential and here was to blame and there was to blame. At the end of the day. Tom is doing what any new boss would do. Prove it to me or it is all talk. Sp tom is getting the best possible team around him to prove it is Blakes fault or isn't. Business 101 Sure but none of that proves that they think he is trash or that he is trash. I agree he has to prove it, but acting like it's already set in stone is crazy. He was trash last year and played well in 2015. In my opinion it could go either way.
Quote:Sure but none of that proves that they think he is trash or that he is trash.If you don't win you don't play well. Think of chess. No matter the moves or pieces left. At the end of the game ya win lose or stale mate(tie) He lost more. So equals not good.
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#Gojags Quote:If you don't win you don't play well. Think of chess. No matter the moves or pieces left. At the end of the game ya win lose or stale mate(tie) He lost more. So equals not good. In chess the Queen cant do it alone, the last 3 years have been like starting a game of chess with half our pieces already gone and the person making the moves for us thinks he's playing checkers (gotta love Gus) while the other side still has all of there pieces and a world class chess player..
Quote:In chess the Queen cant do it alone, the last 3 years have been like starting a game of chess with half our pieces already gone and the person making the moves for us thinks he's playing checkers (gotta love Gus) while the other side still has all of there pieces and a world class chess player..Lets base on last two games and say Blake is 1-1 but on the loss. We rushed over 100 yards. So we can agree with gus gone they are 1-1 right? Okay so stats say Blake with a ground game of150 plus yards has lost the majority of games. and with Gus gone. Grant rushed for over 100 yards and we? Lost. So that says. Unless Fournette hits the end zone. Over and over again. A stronger ground offense. Equals more losses.
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#Gojags We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! Quote:Lets base on last two games and say Blake is 1-1 but on the loss. We rushed over 100 yards. So we can agree with gus gone they are 1-1 right? Okay so stats say Blake with 150 plus yards has lst the majority of games. and with Gus gone grant rushed for over 100 yards and we? Lost. Last year has zero barring on this year. Do you really think Marrone had his system in place the last 2 games? He was running things sure but he was running a patch work Bradley system. It's not about how many yards you run for its about if your running back poses a threat which Fournette does. Teams will stack the box at times this year which they didn't last year and open up the passing game which the run never did last year because no one was scared of Grant. That alone should help Bortles INTs because coverages will be softer. Less INTs means less stress and a more relaxed Bortles.
Quote:Last year has zero barring on this year. Do you really think Marrone had his system in place the last 2 games? He was running things sure but he was running a patch work Bradley system.okay fair enough. We shall see.
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#Gojags Quote:What part of he is not a franchise qb do people not get. And tom is alowing this to happen to show khan he is not. or be proven wrong. Do you have any clue what "journeyman" means? Obviosuly not. "A journeyman quarterback is a term used for an American football (typically NFL) quarterback who plays for several teams over a career. <b>Such</b> a player is typically signed to year-by-year contracts, and may be signed by a team to fill in for an injured starter." |
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