I thought this was interesting.  31st in the league in tackles among defensive lineman.  This even includes defensive ends.

 

Sure he doesn't pressure the qb much, but people want to make it like he lays down on every play and does absolutely nothing.

 

http://www.fftoday.com/stats/playerstats...order=DESC

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What positive difference has he made?

Started every game even when injured.

 

Brings professional work ethic always

 

True team player, never complains.

 

Gives 100% always

 

Honest, family man with zero off field issues.

 

Plays with passion.

 

All positives.

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Is Alualu a good player? No, not really. Is he solid? Yeah. He wasn't worth a 1st rounder but he isn't as bad as some make him out to be. He should only be a back up and rotation guy which he'll be this year, so we'll have to wait and see if it works out any better for him.

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Started every game even when injured.

 

Brings professional work ethic always

 

True team player, never complains.

 

Gives 100% always

 

Honest, family man with zero off field issues.

 

Plays with passion.

 

All positives.

 

(Gene Smith faints)

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Exactly, as we all are finding out football skills were secondary with his picks. None of that is Alualu's fault though. We need depth at the position and he will be part of it.

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Started every game even when injured.

 

Brings professional work ethic always

 

True team player, never complains.

 

Gives 100% always

 

Honest, family man with zero off field issues.

 

Plays with passion.

 

All positives.

 

Really?

 

What tangible, on field benefit did he provide, besides durability?

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He isn't going anywhere this year.  He'll provide solid depth behind Bryant.


Next year his contract is voidable, so depending on a couple of different factors I can see him being let go at that point.

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Really?

 

What tangible, on field benefit did he provide, besides durability?

See post 81, that's tangible benefit is it not?

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In regards to Harvey, oops I meant Tyson Alualu he is good at what he does (Run stopper with occasional pressure on the QB).  He is in no way a Leo, solely rush passer type of player.  That is what Jason Babin & Clemons are on the team to do.  He's more like Big Red's backup

 

Big Red isn't a passrusher or Leo either.  He's a run stuffer and edge setter.  Which is what Alualu is.

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Big Red isn't a passrusher or Leo either.  He's a run stuffer and edge setter.  Which is what Alualu is.

And both of those guys will also be pulled off the field in dime and nickel subpackages to get some combination of Clemons/Babin/Branch on the field simultaneously.    

 

Judging a 5 tech based base DE on his QB sacks or pressures displays a stunning lack of understanding of what's necessary of the position.   

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See post 81, that's tangible benefit is it not?

 

If the tackles don't force turnovers or create long yardage situations or change momentum, etc., then no. 

 

He was drafted 10th overall.

 

Are we seriously arguing the relevance of his 31 tackles last year to justify his existence on the roster?

 

People on this board once used Pro football focus' website to imply that Derek Cox was better than or in any way comparable to Darrelle Revis.

 

Please don't make a similar mistake here.

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He was drafted 10th overall.

 

 

 

Which is absolutely irrelevant.   

 

When NFL position coaches review weekly game tape and grade their unit on assignments, they don't use a sliding scale based on where the player was drafted.   

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Which is absolutely irrelevant.   

 

When NFL position coaches review weekly game tape and grade their unit on assignments, they don't use a sliding scale based on where the player was drafted.   

So a team picking a player 10th overall has absolutely ZERO expectation that player will make any sort of positive impact, irrespective of whether he plays his assignment?

 

Who is the better player-a free lancing Junior Seau or an assignment faithful Russell Allen, and why?

 

Who is the better player, a NT who merely does not get moved off of the ball, or a NT who actually gets under a C's pads, forces him a yard or two into the backfield and disrupts a run on occasion while maintaining the gap?

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If the tackles don't force turnovers or create long yardage situations or change momentum, etc., then no. 

 

He was drafted 10th overall.

 

Are we seriously arguing the relevance of his 31 tackles last year to justify his existence on the roster?

 

People on this board once used Pro football focus' website to imply that Derek Cox was better than or in any way comparable to Darrelle Revis.

 

Please don't make a similar mistake here.

 

Lol, thats ridiculous.  He's getting tackles and provided a benefit to the team, and now you want to downplay it because it shows he has done something.  People want to say that Alualu is a terrible player, when in reality he's not nearly as bad as most of you say.  He is not a pro bowler, he wont get 10 sacks a year, but he is a solid player that could be a really good back up. 

 

Then we want to rehash that he was picked 10th, because that was his fault?

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So a team picking a player 10th overall has absolutely ZERO expectation that player will make any sort of positive impact, irrespective of whether he plays his assignment?

 

Who is the better player-a free lancing Junior Seau or an assignment faithful Russell Allen, and why?

 

Who is the better player, a NT who merely does not get moved off of the ball, or a NT who actually gets under a C's pads, forces him a yard or two into the backfield and disrupts a run on occasion while maintaining the gap?

 

Now the arguement is starting to change.  People have begun to show that Alualu is solid, can hold his position, and make his presence known...and now all the sudden its about creating pressure and forcing fumbles.

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Some of you cannot get past his draft position. Not a single post has claimed he has played up to what fans expect from a 10th overall. It simply does not pertain to the debate of his usefulness.

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Now the arguement is starting to change.  People have begun to show that Alualu is solid, can hold his position, and make his presence known...and now all the sudden its about creating pressure and forcing fumbles.

My position on him has been consistent for years.

 

Nothing has changed from my perspective.

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Lol, thats ridiculous.  He's getting tackles and provided a benefit to the team, and now you want to downplay it because it shows he has done something.  People want to say that Alualu is a terrible player, when in reality he's not nearly as bad as most of you say.  He is not a pro bowler, he wont get 10 sacks a year, but he is a solid player that could be a really good back up. 

 

Then we want to rehash that he was picked 10th, because that was his fault?

 

It wasn't his fault he was drafted 10th overall, and his lack of control over where he was drafted is spectacularly besides the point.

 

The fact is he was drafted 10th, and players drafted 10th overall have higher expectations than being "a really good backup."

 

He hasn't come close to realizing those expectations. 

 

Were he drafted in the 4th round, we'd still be talking about him as a bubble player and questioning his worth to the team.

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So a team picking a player 10th overall has absolutely ZERO expectation that player will make any sort of positive impact, irrespective of whether he plays his assignment?

 

The only thing I care about is how the player is grading out on the football field in comparison to his peers and competition in his assigned role.  I don't care if a former first rounder is only 5% better than a guy picked in the 7th round, I want the best player playing and on the field.  

 

When the NFL scoreboard starts incorporating a draft positioning into the sliding scale to determine who wins football games, I'll feel differently.    Right now, when a player drafted with the first pick in the draft scores a touchdown his team is alloted 6 points and an extra kick, same as an undrafted free agent.    Therefore I don't care about how they were attained when evaluating the player.     You can't change where a player was picked, therefore you shouldn't waste a single second letting it factor into your decision making as to who should or shouldn't play.  

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Well what's he done?

 

I'm not being dishonest here.

 

What positive difference has he made?

 

"Backing" your unestablished stance with more questions...

 

Your questions have already been answered.

 

However, you've yet to make your case at all.

 

You're better than this 99% of the time... except when you go overboard with the hyperbole, like now.

 

Again... there is absolutely zero evidence to show that Alualu "has been useless to this team."

 

If you can't back it, it's doesn't hold water.  Period.

 

That makes it your unfounded opinion, and not fact.

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