Quote:Why is everyone ripping on Cleveland? You guys seem to be getting mad at us because we want to keep a player we drafted and developed...That's crazy. I'm a born and bred Browns fan who lived in Cleveland the first 18 years of my life. I live in 5 Points/Riverside now the last 3 years so I like both cities very much. There's no need to rip on Cleveland. Both cities definitely have their plus and minuses. I do have to say I think its ironic Jax fans acting like their franchise is better than Cleveland’s. Yes, the last 15 years have been bad but it is a storied franchise with 8 championships, 28 playoff appearances, and 16 HOF's. Cleveland doesn't have a lot going for it but it does have an amazing football culture that's rivaled by few teams. Jacksonville has great weather and no income tax going for it which I love. But to act like Jax is this storied franchise that's a current playoff contender who Mack dying to play for is asinine. Both teams sucked last year and he's trying to get paid. Yes, both teams have their pros and cons. Browns have 10 draft picks, 30 million in cap (including 10 for Mack) to add on to our 6 Pro Bowlers. We sucked last year primarily cause of QB probs like most bad teams. When we had Hoyer we looked completely different. All in All I wish no ill will towards Jaguars. I hope they stay in Jax and do well cause they've become my second team.

 

Who here has portrayed the Jags as any sort of storied franchise?   I think most here have been pretty fair in their reasoning behind why it would benefit Mack to come to Florida.  The fact that the Browns have been a lousy team for all but a couple of years since coming back into the league is a minor point.  There are plenty of draws for a guy looking for a huge payday to take it in Florida vs. Ohio. 

 

As far as ripping on the Cleveland, I'm not seeing it.  I see people ripping some of the fans on a message board or responding to an article, mainly because their comments are the stereotypical "ignorati" comments about the Jags moving to London or LA, etc..  Those idiots are well worth bashing.  

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