Remember Daniel Manning, now Chelsea Manning. Sex change operation on tax payers bill.
Not cool.

Daniel Manning played safety for the Chicago Bears. He'd probably be quite confused to learn that his name is now Chelsea.

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Remember Daniel Manning, now Chelsea Manning. Sex change operation on tax payers bill.
Not cool.

Daniel Manning played safety for the Chicago Bears. He'd probably be quite confused to learn that his name is now Chelsea.

Man... that's funny...

Unless you're being serious...

Then it's hilarious. 

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Finally some common sense.

Discuss.

I didn't read the 3 pages of posts but I kind of found it ironic that Trump stated that he'd protect the transgenders and in a way he is keeping his word by preventing them from going into battle.  


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I saw some lunatic democratic congressmen on Tucker earlier comparing a military woman having a baby to a transgender having a sex change on the tax payers dime.

yes, that's pretty much the definition of idiocracy !!

Although, I must admit that if the Gov is will to pay for my sex change, the thought of sitting around licking my boobs all day is quite enticing.

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Shall we also let them we let them change their date of birth, place of birth, name of parents? Why not? They may decide they don't identify with their birth city or their birth parents.

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Trump's golf excursions in the first 6 months in office far surpass the total costs associated with transgender medical costs for the 15,500 trans service men and women.

This isn't even about them. It's about Trump appeasing the holier-than-thou far right who won't press forward with his dumb wall project while this is still a burr in their fannies. Just one transgender soldier in the armed forces has more military experience than that whole family. 

Those bone spurs sure aren't affecting this buffoon's back swing. Draft dodging poser.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Trump's golf excursions in the first 6 months in office far surpass the total costs associated with transgender medical costs for the 15,500 trans service men and women.

This isn't even about them. It's about Trump appeasing the holier-than-thou far right who won't press forward with his dumb wall project while this is still a burr in their fannies. Just one transgender soldier in the armed forces has more military experience than that whole family. 

Those bone spurs sure aren't affecting this buffoon's back swing. Draft dodging poser.

Are you trying to suggest that a bit more than 1% of the current military consists of transgender people?

I would love to see where you get the 15,500 number from.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

No I wouldn't since I suspect that the actual number is very few.

I suspect you are right...I think it's a good idea to keep them out...I don't think the military is a good place for them, not because they are the way they are, the military just isn't designed to house and care for them...I don't think the showering facilities, restroom facilities, and sleeping facilities will go over well on board Naval ships, or in a tent situation while deployed...A tranny and a redneck wouldn't make a great "battle buddy" team...The military just isn't ready for them yet and I mean no offense by my statement...Being a veteran I just can't see the military being ready to swing that liberal yet...The infrastructure just isn't there yet...It's only beginning to be there for women on combat ships and women deployed in combat roles in the Army  and Marines...

You said it better than I could but it's exactly how I see it. And not to sound derogatory, but those who have never served would never understand.

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Are you trying to suggest that a bit more than 1% of the current military consists of transgender people?

I would love to see where you get the 15,500 number from.

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp...y-2014.pdf

It doesn't matter if it was 150. This move is admittedly political in nature, took the joints chiefs by surprise and is equal parts an olive branch to the far right and a distraction from the mess of Trumpcare which is failing bigly.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Man....who cares?

If you're male, female, black, white, purple, gay, transgender or whatever: if you want to put your life on the line and defend this country, you should be able to do it.

Amen. How many of these self-righteous, uninformed bigots who support this are willing to put their lives on the line for our country.

Me as I support this measure. Your name calling aside, I served, did you? The question here is not about acceptance but rather can a unit function effectively in a combat situation. Of that you are missing that point. You can't socially engineer acceptance with the stroke of a pen which is what Obama attempted to do. At what point do you jeopardize a mission and lives in an attempt to force acceptance? Should we kick out 100 able bodied members of the military for every transgender you accept because they don't feel comfortable serving side by side with them?


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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Are you trying to suggest that a bit more than 1% of the current military consists of transgender people?

I would love to see where you get the 15,500 number from.

http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp...y-2014.pdf

It doesn't matter if it was 150. This move is admittedly political in nature, took the joints chiefs by surprise and is equal parts an olive branch to the far right and a distraction from the mess of Trumpcare which is failing bigly.

Its no more an olive branch to the far right than Obamas initial move on his way out was an olive branch, or more like stone throw at incoming office, for the far left

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Trump's golf excursions in the first 6 months in office far surpass the total costs associated with transgender medical costs for the 15,500 trans service men and women.

There are an estimated 1,320 to 6,630 trans service members
with like 40k per person if they transition and need medicine for transition.

where this 15k number keeps coming from I dunno...but that just increases the amount of spending.

And as I've said in other posts. Before people start spouting that popular "more is spent on Viagra" I would say that the government shouldn't cover that either.
I also don't think they should fully cover the costs of having children. (it is a choice to procreate, not some inherent right for the tax payers to cover)

The ridiculous amounts of government wasteful spending should stop. Every 8 million saved I'm all for.
Cut military spending. The budget is 50 billion... RIDICULOUS!
Cut Welfare spending....Medicaid spends $228 billion on the non-elderly population, 212 billion in cash like programs


For the record... I'm NOT OK with a sitting POTUS using up tax dollars to go golfing either. Whether its 1 mil per trip, or 3... or whatever numbers lefties like to throw out randomly.
I love being a Libertarian because I have no problem applauding any POTUS, left or right, when they do something good. And I have no problem calling them out for BS.

However... I know what can and can't be changed. I know every POTUS is gonna go golfing. I know they're gonna wastefully spend meeting this CEO or this country's leader... It is the nature of the beast. It is the system that everyone before me allowed to be set in place.

I focus my worries on policies. What policies are going to cost me more money (ACA, expanding programs like medicaid/medicare/social security that I won't get to use when I'm older), policies that have an effect on my family, declarations of war, etc.
I don't always agree with the POTUS but in this instance, I see nothing wrong with walking back something that has been in place like less than a year and was a stupid move by Obummer in the first place.

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If we allow people to change genders, can we prevent them from changing back? How many times should one be allowed to change genders in a lifetime? Once? Twice? No limit? Once gender becomes a personal opinion, why can't we play fairly tale genders day to day?

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Yeah. That's a well thought out statement.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Yeah.  That's a well thought out statement.

Followed by a well thought out rebuttal?

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And again, why can we allow people to change the other facts about their birth such as birth date, birth place, or birth parents? Nobody seems to have a good answer why the whole world should turn itself upside-down to placate a few mental patients.

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the military is suicidal enough, It doesn't need to add a group of people who are statistically more likely (by far) than other groups to kill themselves.

and here are two studies on transgender suicide rates

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/

They don't want you in if you have health problems, mental problems, or legal problems, and I don't see this as any different.

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Go Jags!
*To stay up for atleast 2 years 3/6/17
2016 draft players I think will be good

• On the Fournette train, will be best back of his class 3/6/17
  
• Lattimore please,  Lockdowns on both sides would be nice
  
• Engram at TE and the MJD clone Samaje Perine
  

Transgenders should have the same right to commit henious war crimes and occupy foreign land the same as every other soldier!

If they can do the job, they can do the job.

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Transgenders should have the same right to commit henious war crimes and occupy foreign land the same as every other soldier!  

If they can do the job, they can do the job.

"American invades foreign land, kills local leadership, struggles to find exit strategy"

From #explainafilmplotbadly.







That's the plot from "The Wizard of Oz"

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Transgenders should have the same right to commit henious war crimes and occupy foreign land the same as every other soldier!  

If they can do the job, they can do the job.

There is no such thing as the RIGHT to serve in the military...They have standards, rules, and admission requirements including mental and physical health and well being...Also the military IS NOT an equal opportunity employer..

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Transgenders should have the same right to commit henious war crimes and occupy foreign land the same as every other soldier!  

If they can do the job, they can do the job.

First of all, transgender people have no fewer or more rights than any other citizen.

Second of all, serving in the military is not a "right", it's a privilege.  Many people such as yourself don't know how good that privilege is (I suspect you have never served a day of your life).

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

The first part of what I wrote was somewhat tongue in cheek but my point remains the same.

If a transgender is in the military, is mentally stable enough to complete what is asked of them, is physically fit enough to carry out the tasks at hand and their superiors are happy with their performance...then what's the problem with them being in the military? There are thousands of fully functional transgender soldiers in the military already, many of whom are honoured to have the privilege to work for their country.

It's interesting how the left and right are so similar at times. I thought the military is a place where it shouldn't matter whether you are a man or a woman , black or white, as long as you can do what is asked of you at an acceptable level. Surely that would seem like common sense to you guys?

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