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Ex-Sheriff Joe Arpaio found guilty of criminal contempt

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(08-03-2017, 03:57 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(08-03-2017, 06:02 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:  He apparently decided he was going to enforce immigration laws and find illegal immigrants.   He was sweeping up latinos without charge, and turning them over to the border patrol.   Someone brought a class-action racial profiling case and won.   (Seems like a slam dunk case to me.)

He continued to arrest people without charge, and so he went to trial for criminal contempt and got convicted. 

So basically, he lost a civil case, refused to abide by the ruling, and that is a crime.  So he was charged with criminal contempt.  

As for all of your questions about judicial vs executive branch, we have a system of checks and balances that prevents the executive branch from doing whatever it wants.  The Constitution.  The Sheriff doesn't have unlimited power to do whatever he wants, thank God.

So what you're saying is that a Judge ruled that he could not order his deputies to seek out and detain illegal aliens.  His deputies, under his orders continued to seek out and detain illegal aliens and somehow that's wrong?  After all, was he not enforcing immigration laws?

What am I missing here?

The Sheriff wasn't "doing whatever he wants", he was enforcing the law.  The judicial branch of government can't prevent law enforcement from enforcing "certain laws".

I don't know how to explain it any better.   Let me try again.  

It was a clear cut case of racial profiling.   He was sweeping up Latinos without charge, and turning them over to the border patrol.   Someone brought a class action lawsuit, and he lost.  

We have a Constitution.  You can't just arrest people because they're brown.  That's what he was doing. 

So the judge rules, he has to stop doing that.   But he ignores the judge and goes on doing it.  That turns it from a civil case into a criminal case.  

You don't seem to understand the Constitution at all.  You say, "The judicial branch of government can't prevent law enforcement from enforcing "certain laws.""   They absolutely can.  The judicial branch can stop the government from doing things.   That's what they are there for.   If you don't like it, you can appeal it all the way to the Supreme Court.   But no matter who you are, you cannot ignore a court order period. 

You act like the Sheriff is the king of the world, and he should be able to do whatever he wants.   No, he cannot.   We have courts, we have judges, we have a CONSTITUTION.   Thank God we do, or else some day some law enforcement person might decide to arrest you without charge, because you fall into some ethnic group or maybe he just thinks you look kind of suspicious.  

You really think the Sheriff should be free to do whatever he wants?  Seriously?  And no one can stop him?
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RE: Ex-Sheriff Joe Arpaio found guilty of criminal contempt - by The Real Marty - 08-03-2017, 04:17 PM



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