(10-06-2017, 12:41 PM)Adam2012 Wrote:

(10-06-2017, 12:59 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Reports now suggest that he scoped out a hotel with a view of Grant Park in Chicago the weekend of Lollapalooza (which is held in Grant Park) and was researching hotels in Boston with a view of the inside of Fenway park but couldn't find one.  I think this diminishes the narrative that he was specifically targeting conservatives as the other two events would have been much less likely to be comprised of a majority of conservatives. I don't think he cared what the political leanings of his victims were.

Based on what's out there right now, it's looking to me like he probably was radicalized by Islamic terrorists at some point during the past few years and probably had help either carrying out his deed or at the very least with the logistics of it.

What??? What proof of this do you have? If he were working for ISIS I think he would have let the whole world know. These radicalized killers are not usually shy about sharing their thoughts. Besides, Donald would have tweeted the fact in a heartbeat. Donald would be gloating about the entire ordeal.

I don't have "proof" hence the words "looking to me like" and "probably".  That's opinion language which I wouldn't have used if there was documented proof of him meeting with Islamic terrorists, ISIS or otherwise.  I'm not committed to the position and I'll be easily moved off of it if information comes out that doesn't support the narrative, but ISIS initially claimed responsibility and then doubled down on that claim.  I don't remember them ever being this adamant about an attack being theirs, although I get that this is a pretty big event and that they could still benefit from associating themselves with it.  Also, the Philippines, which he visited multiple times, is a place with a higher percent chance that such a door could have been opened with him.  He was looking at multiple venues which means I don't know how much you can read into why he chose the specific event he chose other than it offered the opportunity he was looking for.  Lastly, it looks to me like this guy had help on some level which if true means there was a common cause and that this was not the "snap" or "slow burn" of a lone wolf.  What types of causes might fit the bill here?  He also apparently filmed himself during the event and for what purpose?  Was it to send a message to the authorities or perhaps the general public?  Was he streaming the event to somewhere else in the world?  Those questions should be answered in the coming days and weeks and I'm guessing once they are that his reasoning will come to light.

This wasn't a road rage or employment loss type of "snap".  This was carefully planned, carefully calculated, indiscriminate, mass murder.  There was a reason for it which most that have walked in his shoes before have felt the need to convey before, during or after their event was over.  My best guess right now is if he left a message that the investigators already have it but don't feel it's appropriate at this time to release it until they tie up any potential loose ends.

He could very well have been a lone wolf that kept this all to himself for a year or longer and just decided he wanted to go out in a blaze of infamy.  For someone who by all accounts was very smart and very calculating and who had enough money to not have to worry about his financial future or feel envious of people with more than him, I'm just finding it very difficult to wrap my head around that possibility.

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