(11-10-2017, 02:04 PM)Adam2012 Wrote:

(11-10-2017, 10:45 AM)Kane Wrote: People always cite the Constitution, on for good reason, but I wonder if they know it was written to protect you from government... Not really your fellow man.
Freedom isn't about your right to call your neighbor a cuss word... It's about the people having a right to speak out against their government without fear of prosecution or retaliation....
Right to bear arms? Was in fact brought up in the idea of fighting against a government that become to powerful for it's own good....much in the way our founding fathers did against the british....
And so on and so forth..... we amend the Constitution when an era or time calls for it... like civil rights issues...
Can we amend the right to bear arms? Sure... (that still won't protect you from the bad guys)
But I warn anyone who is anti-gun... The right to bear arms protects us from them. This isn't tinfoil hat nonsense... if you fully trust the US gov't you're a fool. One day, hell maybe soon, we'll need to forcefully push back against our government. And if they have all the guns... or it is illegal for us to have anything more than a .22, well we'd all be in deep poo.
And if you think there'll never be a day when we need a revolution... well... I wish I lived in the Matrix with you...

We don't need gun reform... we need mental health reform.

Man - you have watched way too many movies. There are pro and con arguments re gun ownership, but one of the silliest is the "but we'll need them to fight the government" one. If enough generals get together and decide to have a coup, your little collection, and those of all the other gun nuts in this country, won't amount to anything. But you can die playing John Wayne.

I agree that we need mental health reform. But while politicians are really afraid of the NRA, they also hate spending money on mental heath issues. All the "small growth conservatives" will moan and groan about government spending, tax increases, etc. The mentally ill don't have an incredibly rich and powerful lobbying organization like the NRA speaking in their behalf.

So we just sit around waiting for the next massacre so we can send our thoughts and prayers.

You don't understand anything.

Do robots make up our military? Nope, it's humans. And more of them are gun owners than not.

If there is a civil war in this country the military will split in half. The first battles will be for weapons of war. So yes, our 2nd amendment will allow us to fight our government, because at leas t half of the military will not fight against its people.

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