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Total Defense ranking

#41

The addition of Dareus will help that. That went from 31-26 in 1 game. I’m sure once we get done with the next 4-6 games they be at the 16-10 range
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#42

Outside of 1 fluke run, and 1 bad quarter the run defense really hasn’t been bad. There was phantom yardage gained in the fourth quarter by the ravens in their blowout loss and Watson cane in and ran for some cheap yards when the game was over. Overall the run defense has been decent just a few gaffes have lead to big mistakes. Trust me teams aren’t running all over this team every week. Check the box score and yardage per quarter. There are only a few instances that have drastically skewed their statistical standing in rush defense.
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#43

The fact that this current Titans team hung 37 points on them with Robiskie calling the plays should tell you all you need to know here.

Let's see them shut down the Patriots and the opposing SB team before making such a comparison. 4 of their shutdown victories came against teams ranking 25th or worse in YPG, and the Tom Savage-led Houston Texans.
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#44

(11-08-2017, 11:11 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: The fact that this current Titans team hung 37 points on them with Robiskie calling the plays should tell you all you need to know here.

Let's see them shut down the Patriots and the opposing SB team before making such a comparison. 4 of their shutdown victories came against teams ranking 25th or worse in YPG, and the Tom Savage-led Houston Texans.

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#45

(11-08-2017, 10:47 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 10:44 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: 16 takeaways

+7 ratio 

3rd in the league

Fair enough. They are trending in the right direction in that department. But wouldnt you think they’d have to improve ALOT more on the run to even be considered in that conversation?

Laughing These guys are just shooting down every excuse you have to not give the defense their due. As for the run, they plan to do just that by adding Darius mid season. He's already shown signs that the days of the cut back are over.
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#46

(11-08-2017, 10:47 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 10:44 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: 16 takeaways

+7 ratio 

3rd in the league

Fair enough. They are trending in the right direction in that department. But wouldnt you think they’d have to improve ALOT more on the run to even be considered in that conversation?

You keep trying to make points that this isn't a good defense, and have continually made yourself look ignorant at every turn.  Maybe you should stop.

The only thing you need to worry about is points per game and the defense has handled that. 

This defense has a shot at the overall sack record and they also have a guy on pace to break the single season sack record with 22.  Will he do it?  Probably not, but he's pushing it.  You're only here to hate.  Fyi, the Jaguars are playing MUCH better than when they played the Titans.


 

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#47

(11-08-2017, 10:47 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 10:44 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: 16 takeaways

+7 ratio 

3rd in the league

Fair enough. They are trending in the right direction in that department. But wouldnt you think they’d have to improve ALOT more on the run to even be considered in that conversation?
Hahah

You are just continuing to talk about things without actually looking them up. "Ramsey got no picks. Your defense doesn't have takeaways."

You might be worse than BillsFan.
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#48

(11-08-2017, 10:33 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 10:24 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I wonder why that was?  It certainly had nothing to do with 5 INT's... that has nothing at all to do with the Jaguars' Defense.

Ramsey has like 0 picks bro. Big Ben has been bad, it had to do a little bit but he isnt nearly as good as he once was.




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#49
(This post was last modified: 11-09-2017, 11:07 AM by Cleatwood.)

(11-08-2017, 11:11 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: The fact that this current Titans team hung 37 points on them with Robiskie calling the plays should tell you all you need to know here.

Let's see them shut down the Patriots and the opposing SB team before making such a comparison. 4 of their shutdown victories came against teams ranking 25th or worse in YPG, and the Tom Savage-led Houston Texans.
So the Jags are blowing out teams they are clearly better than but the Titans are squeaking out victories against the Browns and Ravens? You were also tied with the Colts around the 7 minute mark in the 4th quarter.

So it appears the Jaguars are getting stronger as the season goes on while the Titans seem to be getting worse.

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#50

tack fans will always have week 2 to hang their hat on for this season I suppose....
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#51
(This post was last modified: 11-09-2017, 01:18 PM by MariGOATa.)

(11-09-2017, 09:19 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 11:11 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: The fact that this current Titans team hung 37 points on them with Robiskie calling the plays should tell you all you need to know here.

Let's see them shut down the Patriots and the opposing SB team before making such a comparison. 4 of their shutdown victories came against teams ranking 25th or worse in YPG, and the Tom Savage-led Houston Texans.
So the Jags are blowing out teams they are clearly better than but the Titans are squeaking out victories against the Browns and Ravens? You were also tied with the Colts around the 7 minute mark in the 4th quarter.

So it appears the Jaguars are getting stronger as the season goes on while the Titans seem to be getting worse.

Titans won in week 2. Congrats. However, payback can sometimes be a [female canine synonym]

Again.. this has nothing to do with the Titans. Were talking about the Jaguars defense being overrated. What have they done so far to even be considered the other historic defenses in the past? Nothing. There’s 8 games left, and they need to prove they can make it all the way to the SB to even bd considered in the same tier as the other great defenses to play... if some of you guys took your homer shades off you’d realize that the titans & jags benefitted from facing weak teams, and neither of the teams have yet to turn a corner.
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#52

(11-09-2017, 01:13 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-09-2017, 09:19 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: So the Jags are blowing out teams they are clearly better than but the Titans are squeaking out victories against the Browns and Ravens? You were also tied with the Colts around the 7 minute mark in the 4th quarter.
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Again.. this has nothing to do with the Titans. Were talking about the Jaguars defense being overrated. What have they done so far to even be considered the other historic defenses in the past? Nothing. There’s 8 games left, and they need to prove they can make it all the way to the SB to even bd considered in the same tier as the other great defenses to play... if some of you guys took your homer shades off you’d realize that the titans & jags benefitted from facing weak teams, and neither of the teams have yet to turn a corner.

Haters gonna' hate. LOL

Weak schedule?  Yeah, mostly.  We'll see what they hold Rivers and Gordon to and re-visit your theory. 

I'm sure Rothlisberger and Bell already have their opinions on the matter though.
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#54
(This post was last modified: 11-09-2017, 02:17 PM by Etdavis2006.)

(11-09-2017, 01:13 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-09-2017, 09:19 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: So the Jags are blowing out teams they are clearly better than but the Titans are squeaking out victories against the Browns and Ravens? You were also tied with the Colts around the 7 minute mark in the 4th quarter.

So it appears the Jaguars are getting stronger as the season goes on while the Titans seem to be getting worse.

Titans won in week 2. Congrats. However, payback can sometimes be a [female canine synonym]

Again.. this has nothing to do with the Titans. Were talking about the Jaguars defense being overrated. What have they done so far to even be considered the other historic defenses in the past? Nothing. There’s 8 games left, and they need to prove they can make it all the way to the SB to even bd considered in the same tier as the other great defenses to play... if some of you guys took your homer shades off you’d realize that the titans & jags benefitted from facing weak teams, and neither of the teams have yet to turn a corner.

No the tacks benefited from playing bad teams lol. We haven’t played the browns, dolphins or raiders. Lets see how y’all hold up against the rams, bengals and steelers and then come back and get at us. I can’t speak for y’all cause y’all are on the fast track to 8-8. Y’all are as good as y’all can get. Mariota ain’t getting any better. Y’all defense is weak. The wideouts are trash. Secondary is extra regular lol. 

Just accept the greatness. Once we get these trash teams up next, the stats will get inflated big time. The pundits know thats why the articles are starting now. They see the chargers, browns, cards, clots, 9ers and texans coming up.
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#55

(11-09-2017, 01:13 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-09-2017, 09:19 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: So the Jags are blowing out teams they are clearly better than but the Titans are squeaking out victories against the Browns and Ravens? You were also tied with the Colts around the 7 minute mark in the 4th quarter.

So it appears the Jaguars are getting stronger as the season goes on while the Titans seem to be getting worse.

Titans won in week 2. Congrats. However, payback can sometimes be a [female canine synonym]

Again.. this has nothing to do with the Titans. Were talking about the Jaguars defense being overrated. What have they done so far to even be considered the other historic defenses in the past? Nothing. There’s 8 games left, and they need to prove they can make it all the way to the SB to even bd considered in the same tier as the other great defenses to play... if some of you guys took your homer shades off you’d realize that the titans & jags benefitted from facing weak teams, and neither of the teams have yet to turn a corner.
Jags are allowing the fewest PPG in the league. They have the most sacks. They are 3rd in takeaways. That's what they have done so far. They have allowed 4 passing TDs all season. They picked off Big Ben 5 times. In Ben's other 7 games, he has thrown 10 TDs and 4 interceptions. The Jags have the 3rd best point differential in the league. They're not just beating teams but blowing them out the water.

This is without playing the Browns, 49ers, Texans, Colts, and Cardinals. So be prepared to hear more and more about how good this defense is and keep underestimating them. It just adds fuel to their fire.
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#56

(11-09-2017, 02:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:
(11-09-2017, 01:13 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: Again.. this has nothing to do with the Titans. Were talking about the Jaguars defense being overrated. What have they done so far to even be considered the other historic defenses in the past? Nothing. There’s 8 games left, and they need to prove they can make it all the way to the SB to even bd considered in the same tier as the other great defenses to play... if some of you guys took your homer shades off you’d realize that the titans & jags benefitted from facing weak teams, and neither of the teams have yet to turn a corner.
Jags are allowing the fewest PPG in the league. They have the most sacks. They are 3rd in takeaways. That's what they have done so far. They have allowed 4 passing TDs all season. They picked off Big Ben 5 times. In Ben's other 7 games, he has thrown 10 TDs and 4 interceptions. The Jags have the 3rd best point differential in the league. They're not just beating teams but blowing them out the water.

This is without playing the Browns, 49ers, Texans, Colts, and Cardinals. So be prepared to hear more and more about how good this defense is and keep underestimating them. It just adds fuel to their fire.
Also... ten sacks, twice... which is pretty historical
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#57

(11-09-2017, 02:11 PM)Kane Wrote:
(11-09-2017, 02:08 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Jags are allowing the fewest PPG in the league. They have the most sacks. They are 3rd in takeaways. That's what they have done so far. They have allowed 4 passing TDs all season. They picked off Big Ben 5 times. In Ben's other 7 games, he has thrown 10 TDs and 4 interceptions. The Jags have the 3rd best point differential in the league. They're not just beating teams but blowing them out the water.

This is without playing the Browns, 49ers, Texans, Colts, and Cardinals. So be prepared to hear more and more about how good this defense is and keep underestimating them. It just adds fuel to their fire.
Also... ten sacks, twice... which is pretty historical

The “tacks” played top better offenses, Raiders, Seattle, Watson-Texans. While you played a grandfather at the QB helm and a QB in his 2nd year. Bungoles are trash dude, Im not sure how you even think their any good. Mixon and AJ green are the only threats. Dalton has a garbage oline, and hasnt even remotely been good.

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AJ Green had Ramsey beat on this play. Dalton over-threw this ball horribly.
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#58
(This post was last modified: 11-09-2017, 02:24 PM by Etdavis2006.)

Tacks giving up 25 points a game and 330 plus yards a game lol. Trash

Almost lost to the browns lol

Bungles gonna won that game this weekend.
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#59

(11-08-2017, 10:06 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: Not hating. But this Jaguars defense isnt an historic defense like majority of the Jags claim to think. It isnt a defense that could overcome a bad QB.

(11-08-2017, 10:14 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: Lets be honest... Big Ben has been awful this year and he had his worst career game vs JaX.

So, it was Big Ben's fault and not that the Jaguars defense sacked him twice and intercepted him 5 times? It would be one thing if the Jaguars defense wasn't always good, but they are and this performance is consistent with how they normally play.

(11-08-2017, 10:17 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: Just like the Titans you guys faced weak schedules, Clots, Bengals, Ravens, worst offenses in the league. Granted Rams are good, so are the Steelers but that doesnt change the fact that Jax are horrible against the run. They also dont have alot of takeaways like the historic defenses of like 2015 Broncos or even the 00 Ravens

Pump the brakes please. Huge test this week though against a good RB and a veteran QB. Lets see how good they pair.


They're on pace for 32 turnovers; the 2015 Broncos had 35. They have two 10-sack games and are on pace to destroy the Broncos' number. They allow fewer YPG and PPG than the 2015 Broncos. The Jags have 4 defensive TDs while the 2015 Broncos had 5 for the year.

(11-09-2017, 02:21 PM)MariGOATa Wrote:
(11-09-2017, 02:11 PM)Kane Wrote: Also... ten sacks, twice... which is pretty historical

The “tacks” played top better offenses, Raiders, Seattle, Watson-Texans. While you played a grandfather at the QB helm and a QB in his 2nd year. Bungoles are trash dude, Im not sure how you even think their any good. Mixon and AJ green are the only threats. Dalton has a garbage oline, and hasnt even remotely been good.

AJ Green had Ramsey beat on this play. Dalton over-threw this ball horribly.

They held the #5 offense (Rams) to 249 yards, and they held the #13 offense (Houston) to 203 yards.

You know Ramsey routinely allows receivers to pass him only to close the distance when it's time. I know that sounds dumb, but he does it all the time. I'd tell you to watch him play, but you and I both know you don't really watch the Jaguars defense or you'd know this already. 

This all comes down to saying something foolish and trying to defend the opinion even though you don't have any proof to support it. 

You just need to give up this one. Your only hope is that they get a lot worse than they are right now because the Jaguars now have a better defense.
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#60

(11-09-2017, 03:06 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(11-09-2017, 02:21 PM)MariGOATa Wrote: The “tacks” played top better offenses, Raiders, Seattle, Watson-Texans. While you played a grandfather at the QB helm and a QB in his 2nd year. Bungoles are trash dude, Im not sure how you even think their any good. Mixon and AJ green are the only threats. Dalton has a garbage oline, and hasnt even remotely been good.

AJ Green had Ramsey beat on this play. Dalton over-threw this ball horribly.

You know Ramsey routinely allows receivers to pass him only to close the distance when it's time. I know that sounds dumb, but he does it all the time. I'd tell you to watch him play, but you and I both know you don't really watch the Jaguars defense or you'd know this already. 

Yeah. I almost pointed that out, but didn't think it'd make any headway with our latest tack fan. 

Ramsey baits the heck out of QBs all the time playing two or three steps off because he knows he has elite closing speed. 

He did it to Ben R when he smacked the ball out of Brown's hands right to Barry Church for a pick six. Ben bought it hook, line and sinker.
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