(11-17-2017, 11:06 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(11-17-2017, 10:44 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Regarding the bolded bit - I ranked Mariota and Garoppolo similarly when they came out respectively and still do. 
I think Jimmy G will do pretty well when he gets his shot. (I liked Wentz, was a bit scared of Dak, and was really scared of Watson due to all the one read stuff in school)

Regarding the coaching/scheme for Mariota, I agree. He's being held back a bit. Though they are clearly smart about using the TE, I think they could tweak their playbook with the receivers to utilize Mariota better. 

I think the high number of picks vs steelers was an exception to the rule for him.  Only two of them were especially egregious errors on his part really. 
I hope he keeps up the trend, but I think he's smart enough to learn from it.

Is it scheme? He's never shown much throwing deep, and when you're limited as a QB there is less you can do with scheme.

I think the interesting comparison to Mariota is Prescott. They're in almost the same situation. Great offensive line, great running game, good enough defense, but Prescott doesn't need excuses all over the place because he went to the playoffs from year one in a strong division and gave the Packers all they could handle.

Mariota, meanwhile, is in year three in a weak division and hasn't made it through a season, much less take his team to the playoffs.

Mariota is fine if you're good with a game manager, the Jaguars could probably continue to get similar results taking Bortles into coming seasons. However I don't think Jaguars fans will be happy with it unless the team carries him to a Superbowl, and I'm not sure how much longer titans fans will be happy with mediocrity when they have elite facets on their team, either.

(11-17-2017, 10:20 AM)SeldomRite Wrote:

(11-17-2017, 10:15 AM)JackCity Wrote: You see you were comparing him to Bortles so I was showing that there is a gulf in quality between the two. Mariota is a franchise QB. Bortles isn't. 

Yes I'd easily take Mariota over Winston and Jimmy G. Wentz is playing like an MVP candidate, Watson has been my favourite QB prospect ever. Goff and Dak are legit franchise guys too.  

The titans would be wise to get proper coaching and put the right scheme around Mariota to maximize his strengths. We have seen Goff+Wentz flourish doing this.

Fine, you're on record that you think he's a franchise QB, I'm on record saying I don't think he is, and that his career is more like game manager, like Bortles this year, than franchise passer.

If we're all still around in a few years we can see if you were right or not.