How homo erotic of you. Regardless of your social or political beliefs, I challenge your intelluct because it reeks of ignorance and the ‘military grade’ label is in no way factual. It’s just more regurgitated and irresponsible drivel that simple minded sheep latch on to. There is stupidity on both sides of the aisle. No need to put yours out there with a neon sign. I’d say as a 22 year combat veteran that is actually proficient with numerous weapons systems and with documented lethality, I’m qualified to challenge your statement.

Don’t understand your point of bringing up “homo erotic”, you must be having one of those triggered moments. That’s neither here nor there.

So with your expertise, what shall congress do with weapons like the AR15. 223, M-16 or any aug automatics that are in hoods all over the country?

You don't need expertise to read and understand the words "shall not be infringed."

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Well, since your statement was either ignorance about the event or an intential misrepresentation of the event into  something that didn't actually happen for your own  personal gain, I'd have say, no, I'm not concerned about it. No more than I'm concerned about Bigfoot, The Loch Ness Monster, or The Bogeyman anyway.

Nah not ignorance, just a honest assumption since the left is portrayed as “too emotional” to issues like this. I figured to give it a shot and ask a rhetorical question and hope you try and bring up something stupid and irrelevant like you did with the race baiting thing that didn’t work.

Soooooo, you're trolling. At least you admit it instead of trying to hide behind skin color like you normally do.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You don't need expertise to read and understand the words "shall not be infringed."

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Nah not ignorance, just a honest assumption since the left is portrayed as “too emotional” to issues like this. I figured to give it a shot and ask a rhetorical question and hope you try and bring up something stupid and irrelevant like you did with the race baiting thing that didn’t work.

Soooooo, you're trolling. At least you admit it instead of trying to hide behind skin color like you normally do.

Incorrect as usual

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

Every time these things happen, those that know the least about guns make themselves known.

Just curious, do you get turned on by challenging someone’s intellect about guns when they have different social/political beliefs?

The left = knows nothing about guns

The Right = gun experts

I’m challenging your intellect because it seems apparent you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your verbiage is wrong, and it’s apparent to anyone with any experience with weapons. When you pretend to know the answers to the problems, you should at least be better versed in terminology. Otherwise, it shows your ignorance.

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Just curious, do you get turned on by challenging someone’s intellect about guns when they have different social/political beliefs?

The left = knows nothing about guns

The Right = gun experts

I’m challenging your intellect because it seems apparent you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your verbiage is wrong, and it’s apparent to anyone with any experience with weapons. When you pretend to know the answers to the problems, you should at least be better versed in terminology. Otherwise, it shows your ignorance.

 
So you are the expert, explain in specific details why you think “military grade” weapons that civilians have access to as such are a fallacy?

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

I’m challenging your intellect because it seems apparent you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your verbiage is wrong, and it’s apparent to anyone with any experience with weapons. When you pretend to know the answers to the problems, you should at least be better versed in terminology. Otherwise, it shows your ignorance.

 
So you are the expert, explain in specific details why you think “military grade” weapons that civilians have access to as such are a fallacy?

Do you know what military grade means?

Hint - It doesn't mean looks like the gun that I see soldiers carrying in clips from Iraq or Afghanistan.

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So you are the expert, explain in specific details why you think “military grade” weapons that civilians have access to as such are a fallacy?

Do you know what military grade means?

Hint - It doesn't mean looks like the gun that I see soldiers carrying in clips from Iraq or Afghanistan.

No

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

How homo erotic of you. Regardless of your social or political beliefs, I challenge your intelluct because it reeks of ignorance and the ‘military grade’ label is in no way factual. It’s just more regurgitated and irresponsible drivel that simple minded sheep latch on to. There is stupidity on both sides of the aisle. No need to put yours out there with a neon sign. I’d say as a 22 year combat veteran that is actually proficient with numerous weapons systems and with documented lethality, I’m qualified to challenge your statement.

Don’t understand your point of bringing up “homo erotic”, you must be having one of those triggered moments. That’s neither here nor there.

So with your expertise, what shall congress do with weapons like the AR15. 223, M-16 or any aug automatics that are in hoods all over the country?

You appeared to be worried about what ‘turns me on’ and stated as such, but hey, you do you.

Why does congress have to do anything with an AR15? The M16 and A1-A4 variant fire a 5.56 round and offered in select fire three round burst and auto. Slowly being replaced with newer rifles and rounds considered more lethal. You realize M16s are no longer manufactured for civilians? They were banned in 1986 and the limited availabilty has collectors paying $20 grand or more. You also must jump through some pretty big hoops to own it if you have the funds. These aren’t the individuals shooting folks. Sorry, but the hood isn’t slinging an M16 of any variant. FYI, the AR-15 is semiautomatic and shoots a .223 projectile based off of the .22 caliber round common in single shot rifles found in country kids closets and on the shelf of most Walmarts. 

There is also this fallacy that automatic weapons are more deadly. This is false. Heard the term ‘spray and pray’? A loose military term that speaks to the true intent of automatic rate of fire. It is designed as a way to provide suppressing fire in a fire fight with no accuracy intended. It suppresses the enemy so that we can advance or collect on target. You spray a stream of bullets and your lucky to hit anything with muzzle rise, barrel heat, etc. It’s only practical in the mentioned form and a waste of ammo. The m249 is the weapon of choice for suppression.

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Don’t understand your point of bringing up “homo erotic”, you must be having one of those triggered moments. That’s neither here nor there.

So with your expertise, what shall congress do with weapons like the AR15. 223, M-16 or any aug automatics that are in hoods all over the country?

You appeared to be worried about what ‘turns me on’ and stated as such, but hey, you do you.

Why does congress have to do anything with an AR15? The M16 and A1-A4 variant fire a 5.56 round and offered in select fire three round burst and auto. Slowly being replaced with newer rifles and rounds considered more lethal. You realize M16s are no longer manufactured for civilians? They were banned in 1986 and the limited availabilty has collectors paying $20 grand or more. You also must jump through some pretty big hoops to own it if you have the funds. These aren’t the individuals shooting folks. Sorry, but the hood isn’t slinging an M16 of any variant. FYI, the AR-15 is semiautomatic and shoots a .223 projectile based off of the .22 caliber round common in single shot rifles found in country kids closets and on the shelf of most Walmarts. 

There is also this fallacy that automatic weapons are more deadly. This is false. Heard the term ‘spray and pray’? A loose military term that speaks to the true intent of automatic rate of fire. It is designed as a way to provide suppressing fire in a fire fight with no accuracy intended. It suppresses the enemy so that we can advance or collect on target. You spray a stream of bullets and your lucky to hit anything with muzzle rise, barrel heat, etc. It’s only practical in the mentioned form and a waste of ammo. The m249 is the weapon of choice for suppression.

I'd rather have an M240 doing that... give me a 7.62x51 over 5.56x45 all day.

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You appeared to be worried about what ‘turns me on’ and stated as such, but hey, you do you.

Why does congress have to do anything with an AR15? The M16 and A1-A4 variant fire a 5.56 round and offered in select fire three round burst and auto. Slowly being replaced with newer rifles and rounds considered more lethal. You realize M16s are no longer manufactured for civilians? They were banned in 1986 and the limited availabilty has collectors paying $20 grand or more. You also must jump through some pretty big hoops to own it if you have the funds. These aren’t the individuals shooting folks. Sorry, but the hood isn’t slinging an M16 of any variant. FYI, the AR-15 is semiautomatic and shoots a .223 projectile based off of the .22 caliber round common in single shot rifles found in country kids closets and on the shelf of most Walmarts. 

There is also this fallacy that automatic weapons are more deadly. This is false. Heard the term ‘spray and pray’? A loose military term that speaks to the true intent of automatic rate of fire. It is designed as a way to provide suppressing fire in a fire fight with no accuracy intended. It suppresses the enemy so that we can advance or collect on target. You spray a stream of bullets and your lucky to hit anything with muzzle rise, barrel heat, etc. It’s only practical in the mentioned form and a waste of ammo. The m249 is the weapon of choice for suppression.

I'd rather have an M240 doing that... give me a 7.62x51 over 5.56x45 all day.

And most in combat positions would agree. We have been pushing to get back to 7.62 for a loooong time. Received a few modded M4 for 7.62 use and loved em, except ammo and barrel weight. Still testing the ballistics and lethality of the 6.5 and 6.8 variants. In any case, a change is coming. Don't need to be running around attempting to shoot bad guys with a varmint round!

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I think part of the problem is the AR in AR15...

Originally it was the AR10, in 7.62x51 before being scaled down and called the AR15 before it became the M16. The AR stands for ARmalite, the Company that first made it... the guy who designed it was a former aeronautics engineer who wanted to make a rifle with the latest and greatest polymers to make a lightweight rifle.

People all assume AR is Assault Rifle. Noooooooope. Once again, research is the enemy of the left.

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I own 3 military grade weapons: a 1911, an M1Carbine and a 1903 Springfield. All of them have more combat kills than any [BLEEP] plastic AR-15.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I own 3 military grade weapons: a 1911, an M1Carbine and a 1903 Springfield. All of them have more combat kills than any [BLEEP] plastic AR-15.

Shhhhhhhh, it doesn't meet the scary black rifle agenda.

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I own 3 military grade weapons: a 1911, an M1Carbine and a 1903 Springfield. All of them have more combat kills than any [BLEEP] plastic AR-15.

I love my 1911.

It doesn't have the ammo capacity of the newer .45s like an H&K Mk23 but I love how it looks and feels in my hand.

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I own 3 military grade weapons: a 1911, an M1Carbine and a 1903 Springfield. All of them have more combat kills than any [BLEEP] plastic AR-15.

I love my 1911.

It doesn't have the ammo capacity of the newer .45s like an H&K Mk23 but I love how it looks and feels in my hand.

7 and 1 will get the job done.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I love my 1911.

It doesn't have the ammo capacity of the newer .45s like an H&K Mk23 but I love how it looks and feels in my hand.

7 and 1 will get the job done.

Not if there's 9 of em! Haha

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7 and 1 will get the job done.

Not if there's 9 of em! Haha

With a .45 you just gotta get them lined up right.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

A number of you guys seem to be in love with your weapons. lol ... not that there is anything wrong with that.

You don't need to be Dr. Phil to see what's going on here.

A friend of mine is convinced that if you made such people have to choose between their weapon and their Bible, they would select their gun every time.

I also think NRA Wayne goes to bed every night dreaming of another black Democrat President. So good for business.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

A number of you guys seem to be in love with your weapons. lol ... not that there is anything wrong with that.

You don't need to be Dr. Phil to see what's going on here.

A friend of mine is convinced that if you made such people have to choose between their weapon and their Bible, they would select their gun every time.

I also think NRA Wayne goes to bed every night dreaming of another black Democrat President. So good for business.

It's called living life, loving freedom and the rights associated. Fortunately, we have the right to religion AND to arms. In this country you don't have to like either or partake in anything related. Unfortunately, some people choose to live life within the confines of their narrow minds and seek to limit those rights, you know, because the government knows what's best for ya. Yay for socialism! Am I right?

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Don’t understand your point of bringing up “homo erotic”, you must be having one of those triggered moments. That’s neither here nor there.

So with your expertise, what shall congress do with weapons like the AR15. 223, M-16 or any aug automatics that are in hoods all over the country?

You appeared to be worried about what ‘turns me on’ and stated as such, but hey, you do you.

Why does congress have to do anything with an AR15? The M16 and A1-A4 variant fire a 5.56 round and offered in select fire three round burst and auto. Slowly being replaced with newer rifles and rounds considered more lethal. You realize M16s are no longer manufactured for civilians? They were banned in 1986 and the limited availabilty has collectors paying $20 grand or more. You also must jump through some pretty big hoops to own it if you have the funds. These aren’t the individuals shooting folks. Sorry, but the hood isn’t slinging an M16 of any variant. FYI, the AR-15 is semiautomatic and shoots a .223 projectile based off of the .22 caliber round common in single shot rifles found in country kids closets and on the shelf of most Walmarts. 

There is also this fallacy that automatic weapons are more deadly. This is false. Heard the term ‘spray and pray’? A loose military term that speaks to the true intent of automatic rate of fire. It is designed as a way to provide suppressing fire in a fire fight with no accuracy intended. It suppresses the enemy so that we can advance or collect on target. You spray a stream of bullets and your lucky to hit anything with muzzle rise, barrel heat, etc. It’s only practical in the mentioned form and a waste of ammo. The m249 is the weapon of choice for suppression.

Please tell me you aren't trying to casually assert there's little difference between the two.

To understand why the .223 bullet was so easily able to pierce both sides of the metal pipe, and why the .22LR bullet failed to pierce even the front side of the pipe, a few other factors need to be looked at.

Rimfire cartridges have for the most part been replaced by centerfire cartridges because the thin case walls of rimfires cannot handle nearly as high of pressures as those of a centerfire cartridge. Higher pressure means that the ejected bullet has more energy to deliver on its target because its velocity is greater.

The bullets also vary in size and shape. Availability for .22LR bullets varies from 36 to 60 grains in weight (2.3 to 3.9 grams), while .223 bullets range from 40 to 90 grains in weight (2.6 to 5.8 grams). The .22LR bullet is rounded while the .223 bullet comes to a sharp point.

The .223 cartridge contains significantly more powder than the .22LR cartridge (maximum pressure 24,000 PSI for .22LR; maximum pressure 50,000 PSI for .223). The .223 bullet is a much heavier bullet, travelling at a higher velocity. This means that the .223 bullet has much more energy to deliver on its target.

Upon impact .223 bullets demonstrate a tendency to tumble, increasing the size of the wound channel. The .223 bullet also delivers additional damage due to hydrostatic shock. The .22LR bullet has neither of these qualities.

16 gauge metal pipe entry and exit of .22LR:



.223:




Source

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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A number of you guys seem to be in love with your weapons. lol ... not that there is anything wrong with that.

You don't need to be Dr. Phil to see what's going on here.

A friend of mine is convinced that if you made such people have to choose between their weapon and their Bible, they would select their gun every time.

I also think NRA Wayne goes to bed every night dreaming of another black Democrat President. So good for business.

My weapon prevents being "made" to make such a choice, but if I had to choose I take the gun then use it to take my Bible, as the 2nd Amendment intends.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato