(03-19-2018, 11:47 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(03-19-2018, 11:40 AM)JackCity Wrote: They aren't separate ideas. Getting value doesn't = ignoring talent evaluation. Evaluating talent is part and parcel of attaining value in the NFL. 

The browns failed because they couldn't correctly evaluate talent. Not because they were blindly pursuing value over talent.  

Perhaps my definition of  value is too nebulous or not explained well enough. It isn't a case of talent evaluation Vs value at all.

So there's never been a case where a team traded back, thinking a player they want would be available a little lower, only to have that player taken in front of them?

I can't recall a specific instance at the moment, but I'm sure it happens more often than you might think.

I'm willing to bet if Chubb is taken before pick 6, that will have happened to the Colts.

I'm certain there has been multiple instances of that happening. Losing a player you desperately want to move back a few spots doesn't seem like a sound strategy to attain value.

Again, I'm unsure of the argument AGAINST getting value here. It doesn't mean ignoring talent evaluation and it doesn't mean acquiring draft picks over talent you want.

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