(05-09-2018, 06:25 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(05-09-2018, 03:36 PM)JackCity Wrote: They were never gonna close the gap completely in one draft but they had one of the best drafts imo.  

They got one of the best guard prospects we have seen. Got another guy in Braden Smith I considered a top 5 guard.  Their line suddenly looks at least average.

Got an intriguing pass rusher in Turay who's fairly similar to Yannick. Racks up pressures.  

Hines and Wilkins two good backs with varied skillsets. Fountain is a v good talent at receiver.  

Another 2/3 drafts like this and they'll catch up. Although to be honest everything still depends on Luck.

Taking off my Jag fan hat for the moment and being a detached football fan, I like what they did for their offensive line.  As it stands now, I think they now have 3/5th, maybe 4/5ths of a solid offensive line.  I have my doubts about Castonzo and their RT.  They should now be able to run the ball effectively, and take some of the pressure off of Luck (and they may need to.  I am not sold at all on Luck's complete return to health.)

I don't like the comparison of Turay to Ngakoue.  Yes, he has good length, but he was not very productive in college, even as a stand up edge rusher in Rutgers' 3-4.  Can he play with his hand on the ground in Indy's 4-3 scheme?  I do like the Darius Leonard pick.  He should add a lot of speed and athleticism to their LBs. 

I think Cain may prove to be a good pick.

You and Pirkster have both said they need another 2-3 drafts like this one to completely close the gap with the Jaguars, and that's with the assumption Luck is capable of playing at a good level.

Let me ask both of you this.  I realize it's early, but in your estimation, is there a trio in the Colts draft class comparable in quality to our 2016 draft haul of Ramsey, Jack, and Ngakoue?

 
Turay and Yannick is more a style wise comparison. Both are very flexible edge benders with unique but effective styles. Turay had a weird college career and suffered badly from injuries but when he was on the field he was a demon for creating pressure, even if his sack numbers aren't large. He'll play DE for Indy.    

No as good as Nelson is he will never have the impact Ramsey. Leonard could be like Jack but I doubt it. Turay probably won't be as good as Yannick either.   

They have a mountain of cap space over the next few years so paired with another 2/3 drafts they will eventually catch up to the division talent wise. Ballard knows what he's doing.

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