(07-18-2018, 09:21 AM)copycat Wrote:

(07-18-2018, 08:36 AM)mikesez Wrote: I don't see anything in the last two years that's worse than Mitch McConnell declaring that his #1 goal was to make Obama a one-term President.
The President doesn't appoint Congress. 
The Congress is supposed to be more powerful than the President.  They have deferred so much of their power to the president and his appointees over the last 100 years.  They may have to start taking it back.
It's not going to be pretty, and it will come across as disloyal to those of us who like the President at the time.
That said, this is just where I see things headed.  Congress has yet to pass major reforms to limit the President's power.  They are just talking about it.

What do find discomforting about that statement, that he uttered in in public?  Do you not think there were democratic congressmen thinking that and saying that behind closed doors in 1980 as Reagan's presidency began?  I watched for 8 years as the media ignored any hint of impropriety by the Obama administration until the volume was deafening.  By contrast, watching I believe ABC news this morning the talking heads were conjecturing that the Queen of England was sending a message about Trump because she wore a brooch that the Obama's had given her in the past, the day before her meeting with Trump.  

The rest of your statement is pure truth, the problem I see is that congress is so in bed with the lobbyist and donors that fixing the problem would be akin to cutting off their noses to spite their faces.

I find things McConnell definitely said openly to be more concerning than things Democrats may have said behind closed doors 30+ years ago, yes.
If Democrats in Congress said those kinds of things at that time, that's not good, but at least they said it behind closed doors.  Saying it privately indicates more respect for both the traditional role of Congress and the traditional role of the President.
Congressmen aren't supposed to be grandstanding to influence the Presidential election.  Should they hold the current President accountable? Yes.  Do they have the power to remove the current president from office for any improper behavior? Yes.  But theyre supposed to do that by passing laws and issuing subpoenas and ultimately starting impeachment proceedings if the first two options don't work. You know that.  They aren't supposed to be electioneering for or against a candidate for president or the reelection of the current president.

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