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(01-04-2019, 01:24 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: AOC has proposed taxing the top earners 70% to fund her green new deal.

You know its scary when you have to confirm that some of these articles aren't written by the Onion.

What's your fascination with her? She's an insignificant bug splattered on the windshield of Congress right now, and if she keeps floating ridiculous ideas like a 70% income tax, she'll be scraped off in the next primary cycle. She's got only marginally more influence over the Democratic agenda than you are I do.
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(01-04-2019, 01:45 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: Why do right-wingers have such an issue with women? Mommy issues?

Some of you act as if AOC has any influence. But, that's what you do - find a perceived weak spot - always a woman - and beat it to death. No wonder nothing of substance gets discussed.

Some of you guys just love TMZ.

I don't have an answer for you however, why is every time someone disagrees with a policy you turn it into a race/gender bias?
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(01-04-2019, 01:45 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: Why do right-wingers have such an issue with women? Mommy issues?

Some of you act as if AOC has any influence. But, that's what you do - find a perceived weak spot - always a woman - and beat it to death. No wonder nothing of substance gets discussed.

Some of you guys just love TMZ.

Why do you think it's because she's a woman and not because she may literally be the dumbest member of congress? 

She's a constant source of entertainment. It's people like you that make everything about race and gender.

(01-04-2019, 10:12 PM)copycat Wrote:
(01-04-2019, 01:45 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: Why do right-wingers have such an issue with women? Mommy issues?

Some of you act as if AOC has any influence. But, that's what you do - find a perceived weak spot - always a woman - and beat it to death. No wonder nothing of substance gets discussed.

Some of you guys just love TMZ.

I don't have an answer for you however, why is every time someone disagrees with a policy you turn it into a race/gender bias?

I'd guess something around 85% of his posts are ad hominem attacks.
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(01-04-2019, 01:24 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: AOC has proposed taxing the top earners 70% to fund her green new deal.

You know its scary when you have to confirm that some of these articles aren't written by the Onion.

70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.
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(01-05-2019, 01:46 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(01-04-2019, 01:24 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: AOC has proposed taxing the top earners 70% to fund her green new deal.

You know its scary when you have to confirm that some of these articles aren't written by the Onion.

70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.

You feel entitled to take half of what someone earns? You suck.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(01-05-2019, 01:50 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:46 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: 70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.

You feel entitled to take half of what someone earns? You suck.

When that person is paying a smaller percentage than the middle class which averages 35%? I sure do and I do it with a smile.
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(01-05-2019, 01:46 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(01-04-2019, 01:24 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: AOC has proposed taxing the top earners 70% to fund her green new deal.

You know its scary when you have to confirm that some of these articles aren't written by the Onion.

70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.

You forgot to mention the possibility of our government spending less money as well, but im sure that was just an oversight.

Also, married couples need to make between 400 and 600k to pay 35%. Is that what you consider middle class?
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(01-05-2019, 02:03 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:50 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You feel entitled to take half of what someone earns? You suck.

When that person is paying a smaller percentage than the middle class which averages 35%? I sure do and I do it with a smile.

Very leftist of you.

(01-05-2019, 09:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:46 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: 70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.

You forgot to mention the possibility of our government spending less money as well, but im sure that was just an oversight.

Also, married couples need to make between 400 and 600k to pay 35%. Is that what you consider middle class?

The government can do whatever it pleases as long as it sticks it to those people, amirite?
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(01-05-2019, 09:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:46 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: 70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.

You forgot to mention the possibility of our government spending less money as well, but im sure that was just an oversight.

Also, married couples need to make between 400 and 600k to pay 35%. Is that what you consider middle class?

I'm just taking the national averages that I googled. No, that is definitely not middle class. IMO, middle class is $100,000 to $250,000.

(01-05-2019, 10:15 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 02:03 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: When that person is paying a smaller percentage than the middle class which averages 35%? I sure do and I do it with a smile.

Very leftist of you.


Whatever. I am an Independent. I am very leftist on some things and on others, I am very right wing. It all depends on the issue.
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(01-05-2019, 01:50 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:46 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: 70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.

You feel entitled to take half of what someone earns? You suck.

You have nothing to contribute to this conversation.
You want taxes to be zero. Every tax offends you. we get it.
Go be offended somewhere else, you sensitive snowflake.

(01-05-2019, 09:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:46 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: 70% is high, but the current average for millionaires is 30% which is way too low. I'd split the difference and make it an even 50%. I'd also legalize marijuana and tax the crap out of it and raise the taxes on alcohol, cigarettes and gambling, while giving a 5% tax cut to people who make under $100,000 yearly. I bring home troops stationed in countries overseas and create bases along our own southern border with check points where there can be continuous patrols. No need for a wall then.

You forgot to mention the possibility of our government spending less money as well, but im sure that was just an oversight.

Also, married couples need to make between 400 and 600k to pay 35%. Is that what you consider middle class?

Incorrect.
You appear to be confusing the top marginal rate with the effective rate.
Taxes are, like, complicated and stuff.
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(01-05-2019, 12:24 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:50 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You feel entitled to take half of what someone earns? You suck.

You have nothing to contribute to this conversation.
You want taxes to be zero. Every tax offends you. we get it.
Go be offended somewhere else, you sensitive snowflake.

(01-05-2019, 09:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: You forgot to mention the possibility of our government spending less money as well, but im sure that was just an oversight.

Also, married couples need to make between 400 and 600k to pay 35%. Is that what you consider middle class?

Incorrect.
You appear to be confusing the top marginal rate with the effective rate.
Taxes are, like, complicated and stuff.

If you had any reading comprehension you'd know that he was claiming that middle class taxpayers pay less than 35%. If the top marginal rate is 35%, then those at that rate DO pay less than 35%. Those below $400K which includes all of the "middle class" don't even pay that as a marginal rate.



                                                                          

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(01-05-2019, 12:24 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 01:50 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You feel entitled to take half of what someone earns? You suck.

You have nothing to contribute to this conversation.
You want taxes to be zero. Every tax offends you. we get it.
Go be offended somewhere else, you sensitive snowflake.

(01-05-2019, 09:15 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: You forgot to mention the possibility of our government spending less money as well, but im sure that was just an oversight.

Also, married couples need to make between 400 and 600k to pay 35%. Is that what you consider middle class?

Incorrect.
You appear to be confusing the top marginal rate with the effective rate.
Taxes are, like, complicated and stuff.

Incorrect. I approve of taxes for the least amount of government necessary for a free society. The government forcibly confiscating half of what anyone earns is tyrannical, regardless of what the number actually is.
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(01-05-2019, 12:35 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 12:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: You have nothing to contribute to this conversation.
You want taxes to be zero. Every tax offends you. we get it.
Go be offended somewhere else, you sensitive snowflake.


Incorrect.
You appear to be confusing the top marginal rate with the effective rate.
Taxes are, like, complicated and stuff.

If you had any reading comprehension you'd know that he was claiming that middle class taxpayers pay less than 35%. If the top marginal rate is 35%, then those at that rate DO pay less than 35%. Those below $400K which includes all of the "middle class" don't even pay that as a marginal rate.

Actually you're right I apologize.
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(01-05-2019, 12:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 12:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: You have nothing to contribute to this conversation.
You want taxes to be zero. Every tax offends you. we get it.
Go be offended somewhere else, you sensitive snowflake.


Incorrect.
You appear to be confusing the top marginal rate with the effective rate.
Taxes are, like, complicated and stuff.

Incorrect. I approve of taxes for the least amount of government necessary for a free society. The government forcibly confiscating half of what anyone earns is tyrannical, regardless of what the number actually is.

Define free. I thought FDR did a good job of listing four definitions of freedom.  What about you?
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(01-05-2019, 02:23 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 12:35 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: If you had any reading comprehension you'd know that he was claiming that middle class taxpayers pay less than 35%. If the top marginal rate is 35%, then those at that rate DO pay less than 35%. Those below $400K which includes all of the "middle class" don't even pay that as a marginal rate.

Actually you're right I apologize.

I have a couple liberal friends whom I have never heard admit they were wrong about ANYTHING, so kudos to you for being the first I have seen to take that honor.
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(01-05-2019, 02:29 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 12:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Incorrect. I approve of taxes for the least amount of government necessary for a free society. The government forcibly confiscating half of what anyone earns is tyrannical, regardless of what the number actually is.

Define free. I thought FDR did a good job of listing four definitions of freedom.  What about you?

Why waste time with definitions when you just make up your own as we go along?
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(01-06-2019, 09:34 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 02:29 PM)mikesez Wrote: Define free. I thought FDR did a good job of listing four definitions of freedom.  What about you?

Why waste time with definitions when you just make up your own as we go along?

If you really think I'm just making up definitions as I go along you should either take every opportunity to define what you're talkin about or simply refuse to discuss anything with me.  Sitting back and [BLEEP] about it is not very manly.
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(01-06-2019, 01:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-06-2019, 09:34 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Why waste time with definitions when you just make up your own as we go along?

If you really think I'm just making up definitions as I go along you should either take every opportunity to define what you're talkin about or simply refuse to discuss anything with me.  Sitting back and [BLEEP] about it is not very manly.

Ooooo, fightin' words! Its really much more fun to just sit here and watch you do the Lefty Lindy while touting your cuckservatism.
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(01-06-2019, 02:43 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-06-2019, 01:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: If you really think I'm just making up definitions as I go along you should either take every opportunity to define what you're talkin about or simply refuse to discuss anything with me.  Sitting back and [BLEEP] about it is not very manly.

Ooooo, fightin' words! Its really much more fun to just sit here and watch you do the Lefty Lindy while touting your cuckservatism.

Hahah...Apparently [BLEEP] is reserved for females only. You girly man you. Get a grip Linda!
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(01-05-2019, 02:29 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2019, 12:52 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Incorrect. I approve of taxes for the least amount of government necessary for a free society. The government forcibly confiscating half of what anyone earns is tyrannical, regardless of what the number actually is.

Define free. I thought FDR did a good job of listing four definitions of freedom.  What about you?

Mikey...   No.   Please no.
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