(08-01-2018, 07:06 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 06:42 PM)jj82284 Wrote: Tax rate cuts aren't inherently revenue negative and more often than not are revenue positive.  At current we are seeing record highs in tax revenue.  The problem is baseline budgeting and automatic spending increases of 8% in some cases.  

The only tax that, when cut, creates more revenue in the short term, is a sales tax or a capital gains tax.  This is because people can delay their activity until after the rate is reduced.  Income taxes do not work like that in the short term.  People don't delay their wages.  
In the long term, reductions to income tax can spur consumer spending which in turn can add to wages and payrolls and in turn give more money to the government in the end.  But that long term effect is uncertain.  It doesn't happen every time and is less likely to happen when the economy is at full employment already.

As for blaming the problem on automatic spending increases, isn't that changing the subject?  My point is, all else equal, the tax cuts I listed reduced receipts by the government more often than not.
Bringing spending levels into the discussion breaks the "all else equal" part.

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(08-01-2018, 07:05 PM)pirkster Wrote: This is why the left always wishes to silence their opposition, and the right is so insistent upon freedom of speech.

Without it, the truth cannot be found.  With free speech, you can't bury history and examples of what does not work and does not produce prosperity.

Let them open their mouths and show how cute but asinine their ill formed beliefs and ideas are.

That's what free speech affords.  Uncensored information, without which one cannot pursue truth.

You're shadow boxing.
No one here wants anyone to stop thinking and stop doing math.